1/8 Atlantis Phantom of The Opera

MisterMeester

Agree with PhoenixG about the air pressure.

Try something like 25 psi at least for that external mix suction feed gun. Turn the nozzle back down to reduce the paint volume. The higher pressure should work better to draw the paint up the suction tube, plus atomize the paint well.

The advice you are getting from the book is most likely referring to double action gravity feed brushes. You might also want to shoot a little further away than with a double action gravity feed brush, as the paint volume is usually higher.

From my experience using such external mix suction feed guns many years ago.

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Johann is on the money with the usage of external mix airbrushes. I have an old Badger 350 and LOVE it for area coverage. I use it on all of my auto bodies when building cars/ trucks. Turns out perfect results…every time.

Like this:

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Thanks guys. Recycling bin went out this morning, for pickup. As soon as I get some more glossy cardboard I’ll start experimenting.

Cheers,
Mark

Experiment complete. Success!
This is the result at 30 PSI…


Thanks again for the tip, guys.

Hoping to have an update on the model soon.

Cheers,
Mark

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Excellent news! Glad you were able to resolve the issue with single action airbrush!

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That’s exactly what I’ve done with all my Aurora monster figures who wore black.

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Both wash and drybrush techniques can be applied to almost anything!

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Just to give you an idea, here’s a reissue kit I did about 25 years ago as an out-of-the-box job.

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That’s an amazing model. I doubt mine will turn out to be anywhere near close to that.
Oh, and welcome to the forum!

Cheers,
Mark

How about a skull? If you haven’t got one from another Aurora monster kit, you can find 1/8 scale items on etsy or eBay.

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I was going to keep it under wraps until later, but……in the movie, when Raoul and Leroux fall into the chamber, there are two nooses in the scene behind them. Nothing earth shattering , but I’m going with that. I’ve already got the rigging thread and tied them. Just waiting for the right stage to glue them in place.

Thanks for the idea, though!

Cheers,
Mark

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Atta boy Cheecho!!! Worked perfect Mark. :+1:

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I would advise caution - nooses have become politically incorrect. Just sayin’.

BTW, Aurora’s Phantom wasn’t based on Lon Chaney’s version at all. The figure is a rendering of James Cagney as Chaney playing the Phantom in Man of a Thousand Faces (1954). Unlike the model, Lon Chaney’s Phantom wore a high-collared shirt with a string tie and a completely different vest. His cloak was much more voluminous than Cagney’s. The mask is clearly based on the one worn by Claude Rains in the 1943 remake. Chaney’s lair was built from dressed stone, where the rough, rocky kit base looks more like the set seen in the 1962 Hammer Films production. Certainly, none of these films featured a beat-up prisoner in a floor-level dungeon!

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Seriously? You’re joking, right?

Interesting. While watching the Lon Chaney film, I did notice some of those differences you point out. I’ve always thought it was based on this guy…


…as the likeness is clearly there, in my mind. The face of the Cagney character is just not the same. The chin is way too pronounced and the hair is too long. One could say perhaps the cheekbones are too high as well.
But alas, you are correct. I checked my copy of “Aurora Model Kits” 3rd Ed, by Thomas Graham, and there it is on pg 163 “Based on James Cagney…”. This explains to me why the facial features on box art differs from what the actual model looks like. The box art must be the Cagney character. I can see that now.

This begs another question. If this model has nothing to do with Lon Chaney and his 1925 film, then why is Chaney Entertainment Inc. referenced on the box?

Cheers,
Mark

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Re: the noose - Over the past couple years, a noose has come to be synonymous with lynchings in some quarters. I had planned to use one in an Old West diorama (around the neck of an old skeleton) and was advised against it. But, it’s your call!

Re: The Phantom’s likeness - You’re right, it isn’t an exact likeness to James Cagney, but it isn’t really Lon Chaney, either. In my view it’s sort of a hybrid of the two. Apparently Atlantis and Chaney Entertainment think it looks enough like the 1925 Phantom to come to terms. No doubt Atlantis didn’t want to have to alter the Phantom head as Revell had to with their Dracula kit when they couldn’t make a deal with the Lugosi estate.

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A noose has always been synonymous with lynchings. What has changed over the last few years is a small but vocal group of people distorting history to make it racial. In truth the Hangman’s Necktie has been worn by every group of human. Young and old, rich and poor, and every color. Some arguably deserved it. Sadly, many did not.

Context matters. Cattle rustlers and horse thieves were often lynched. An old west scene depicting such an event would be historically accurate. And MisterMeester including them as an obvious homage to a 100 year old movie is also historically accurate.

My 2 cents

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No argument whatsoever, you presented the issue better than I did.

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And I was starting to think it would be politically incorrect to watch “Hang ‘em High”.

Gerald Butler’s version of the Phantom is questionable and I thank you both for not referencing that Phantom.

Now most of you are going “what?” Told you I was a movie buff….

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IMHO, Andrew Lloyd Webber’s opera is a delightful version of the story; Gerard Butler’s movie was not. 'Nuff said.

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@Schmidty13 Thank you for the vote of confidence. Couldn’t have said it better myself. My vision regarding the altered torture chamber contains no ill intent toward anyone. In fact, it never even occurred to me. Like you said…. I’m just wanting to make a more accurate representation of a 100 year old monster movie.

Cheers,
Mark

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