Hey, a few months back I had ordered a couple of monogram’s in my LHS.
When I got them, all of the swastika’s were removed.
On the box they were drawn over with a black marker, same procedure on the color markings in the instructions sheet and on the decal sheet itself they were cut out.
I want to know if in the US they do this to?
Because when you buy a RoG kit around here, they don’t do this stuff at all.
They just don’t draw a swastika on the plane itself on the box cover, but inside the box everything is normal.
It just bugs me, because now I need to look for a decal sheet with swastika’s and even look for kill markings.
The removal of swastika’s is a typical european thing. This is because in some european countries (including Germany) it is illegal to replicate a swastika (unless for educational puposese etc.)
Some kit manufacturers either cut off the swastika’s from the decal sheets of deliver dissambled swatika’s. And on box art the swastika is often left out or blanked off.
Here is an example of finnish swastika’s being censored on box art:
Wow I didn’t even know they were legal in Belgium? Being occupied by Germany during the war and all I’d have thought the swastika would be banned.
Here some kits have them and some don’t. I think it’s a policy that varies from company to company. As you said if the kit is sold in Germany it’s easier just not to put it on or in the kit than to go though the trouble of marking them all out.
As Paintsniffer said you can buy a sheet of just replacement swastikas. Or if you know any other modelers you might as for a spare, I’ve got piles of extra insignia from kits with multiple paint schemes.
Having several kits that didn’t include them, or they’re split in 2 pieces…even got one kit that has 4pc swastica’s, I ordered a sheet (kitworld decals), roughly $8, that has around 100 or so, for 1/72-1/48 and 1/32. All different styles (borders and whatnot)…all I’ll ever need!
Well I know that they’re illegal in some countries, but I mean, cutting them from the decal sheet is a bit ‘over the edge’, and I don’t think they are illegal here, I mean the box art, I could understand that, but cutting them from the decal sheet? that aint fun at all, and I don’t think they’re illegal here (except for showing at public places) because all the other boxes I bought included them.
Maybe I’ll just send an email to costumer service for a replacement sheet.
Nine, they are not illegal here either, but Revell kits don’t carry them. They don’t know where the kits will end up when they make them. For a while, many kits, including Hasegawa, didn’t have them. But they started including them again a few years ago. My guess is that the ones heading for Germany are removed.
Revell being a German country means they don’t carry them. I guess they also removed them from Monogram kits heading for Europe. My guess is that customer servics won’t have them. Its just as worth while to buy a set. If you get more German aircraft, you will come across this. And the kits with mulitple part swastikas as well. Its much easier to have a set of AM ones to hand.
This subject has always fascinated me and really hit home when I bought…arrg can’t remember the kit?? At any rate the swastikas were not there and I was thinking what do I do for decals… fermis has the answer[I] (even though it bugs me I have to do that as it is).
Just curious, are images of Hitler or any member of the Nazi party permitted, or is it just the swastika?
Bish, I know Revell is German, but the ‘German’/ european kits DO have Swastika’s [;)]
Reasoned, I think that Hitler, Swastika’s and all that aren’t Illegal, but saying the holocaust didn’t happen is illegal, and showing that you’re fan of hilter or his ideas in public is illegal also…
(Because that is racism and that is illegal, or something like that)
But sometimes, Belgian laws are straight up confusing, so I couldn’t really say how it is EXACTLY.
I just know that swastika’s being removed from decal sheets has never happened with all the kits I have bought allready, some companies (as you probable noticed) just cut them in half, and when you put 'em on the plane you put them together.
Yes, but none of Revells do, at least i haven’t seen any. I guess its just revell playing safe. I have 7 32nd scale kits. The 4 Hasegawa and 1 CH all have Swastika’s, the two Revell kits don’t. And its not that the decals in Revell kits are removed. They are not there to start with.
The Swastika is illegal in China period. Hobby Boss, Dragon, Revell manufactured in China, you name it, cant even replicate them for kits export bound for the U.S. Thus, my Dragon Bismarck has a decal sheet that has “sections” that you can lay one on top of another to re-create them if you wish.
I have never understood this in the case of models. You are building a model of a historical aircraft - this is how it ACTUALLY looked! You can not go back and erase history and pretend that it never happened. ( I remember a quote that goes something like “those who forget hisory are doomed to repeat it”)
What’s next - go back and digitally erase every “bad, evil” swastika from every WWII photo and video that ever existed? History is history and you can’t just go back and wish away the parts that were not nice.
I would say that it’s not so much “hiding” them as showing a bit of respect to the many still alive who actually had to live through the atrocities of the twisted crew that symbol represents.
I know in Poland there is an Air museum that has a plane that what used in a fly over during the Olympics in Berlin that has a big swastika on the aircraft on display. Alot of countries in Europe still hold a grudge against Germany, but I know that alot of people in Poland have sorta let it go, but hold a huge grudge on Russians. I have some war medals like the Iron Cross and an insignia of the Luftwaffe for a pilots hat while I was in Warsaw. There is a huge amount of WWII items in Poland that are always being sold in bazars like old German war helmets and what not.
I wonder why the hammer and sickle or red star were not also sanatized from Russian a/c decals (Aeroflot still uses it), given the estimated 60 million deaths?
