FINISHED! Lindberg Coast Guard Tug Brought Back to Life!

And here’s my latest project. I built this Lindberg tug about 15 years ago and apparently, going through (2) house moves and sitting in an open top box for years, is not conducive to the proper care and feeding of a model boat![^] How 'bout that dust on the pilothouse roof?? If you look real close at the back of the pilothouse and the nose of the hull, you’ll see your basic cobwebs![:I] Guess I better get that Swiffer!!![:D]

So, my plan is to see if I can resurrect this puppy, and make it presentable again. And, to also see how (or more logically, IF), my modeling skills have improved over the years. Planned steps are:

  1. I will likely add a few aftermarket items, but, won’t go hog-wild.
  2. Save the racing stripe decal, since I don’t have any replacements.
  3. Make it a waterline boat, so I can use it on my HO train layout.
  4. Use the USCG Tug scheme of black hull, gray deck, buff funnel. (I don’t believe this boat is correct for a USCG Tug, but, what the heck.)
  5. Take care of the seams and flash lines.
  6. And just “gussy it up” a bit so it looks more Cost Guard-ish, whatever that means.

I will post updates on my progress and comments, sneers and laughter will be welcome.


Lovin’ that glossy red funnel…

*clears throat, [:-^] *

Eternal Father, strong to save,
Whose arm hath bound the restless wave,
Who bidd’st the mighty ocean deep
Its own appointed limits keep;
Oh, hear us when we cry to Thee,
For those in peril on the sea!

[:D]

As a Coast Guard tug, or work boat, I believe the hull would be black.
You might have a chat with CGbob about that.

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=397349

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Thanks for the heads up! That’s a nice site, and the link to “Fred’s Place” is pretty cool!

How do you post photos? I can’t find the instructions.
I built that kit (?) in ‘98. It is finished per the CG manual. The model scales out (depending on where you measure) to an 85’. They were purchased from the Navy and used at the CG yard in Curtis Bay, Md. I had the pleasure of communicating with a sailor who remembered these boats. He contacted my Father through Fred’s Place (I was their liaison).
Andy

afulcher: here is the link to the finescale help forum on posting photos:

http://www.finescale.com/fsm/community/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=4462

i’d be real interested in seeing the prototype shots of this boat. thanks in advance![tup]

Please give more specific details as to how to upload a photo. I am used to being able to obtain a prompt to locate where the picture is and upload from there.

Andy’s secretary (wife)

And here’s the results from this past weekend. The hull was cut to the waterline (this is pre-sanding) and though you can’t tell from this shot, the the pilothouse, stack, and cabin, were all separated, and the deck was removed. Most of the fittings and masts were removed, too.

On to seams and flash removal!

Hate to rain on anybody’s parade, but the Lindberg “Coast Guard Tug” is pure fiction-- invented by the folks at Lindberg. The ironic part is that they already had a kit in their product line that WAS a Coast Guard tug-- the slightly larger Diesel Tug. That tug is a 86 foot steel ex-US Army tug- that class was used by a number of operators after WW2. The USCGC Messenger was one, stationed at the USCG yard in Baltimore.

-Bill

I cannot believe that a kit-maker would put out a model kit that is not prototype!!![;)] What’s the world coming to???[:D]

Bill: Thanks for that info. I didn’t know the Diesel Tug (one of which is in my stash) was accurate for the USCG and this one wasn’t. I found a photo of USCGC Messenger (very hard to do, by the way) and it was a good looking Cutter.

Hmmm, decisions, decisions. May have to finish the psuedo-tug just to see if it can be done and make her a shelf queen. Then do the diesel one for the layout. (I would put both on there, but, I need to leave room for the Lindberg “Point” class cutter in the stash.)

I think Lindberg captured the style of the day…

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3427595&postcount=5

That was my second thought, sorta. Take the pseudo-USCG tug and modernize the stack a bit. Put a cap on it with diesel exhausts pipes coming out of it. Add some other modern deck “thingies” (I’m such a sailor…) and ta-da! An even more imitation USCG tug!

I didn’t pay too much attention to these old tugboat kits when they appeared initially, so I may have the story garbled a little. My recollection, though, is that the one Lindberg is currently selling with Coast Guard markings on it originally appeared in the late fifties or early sixties as a civilian tug. (The name “Carol Ann” sticks in my memory - but that may be senility.) As I remember it, having built it as a kid, it was a pretty nice kit - complete with crew figures and an electric motor that actually worked. If I’m not mistaken it represented a tug with a wood hull and superstructure. Whether it was based on a real vessel or a generic design I don’t know, but the prototype certainly wasn’t a Coast Guard tug. I think Lindberg added the CG markings fairly recently (i.e., within the last twenty years) as a marketing device.

The “diesel tug” that RCBoater mentioned is, I believe, a Lindberg reboxing of an old Pyro kit from the early or mid-fifties. It was based on a Model Shipways wood kit, the Dispatch No. 9. At about the same time Pyro issued its Roger B. Taney and Harriet Lane kits (now being sold in Lindberg boxes under the confusing labels “Independence War Schooner” and “Civil War Blockade Runner,” respectively). Model Shipways was a relatively new company, and the sudden competition from this new plastic upstart came close to driving it out of business. (When I knew the two founders, John and Sam, thirty years later they were still talking about “Pirate Plastics.”)

I’m not sure when Lindberg bought the old Pyro molds, but I think the “Coast Guard Tug” (i.e., the old one with CG markings on it) was already on the market by then. That probably explains why, as rcboater pointed out, we currently have our choice between a mislabeled CG tug and an Army-built civilian one.

All this is kind of a shame. Given the importance of the Coast Guard, and how familiar it is to people who live on the coasts and waterways, it seems like there ought to be more Coast Guard kits out there.

I have two tools that I bought that I really like for cleaning dust off models:

  1. I bought a car detailing brush from an auto parts store and use it to clean off flat surfaces.
  2. I bought a set of makeup brushes from the makeup department at the super market. These brushes are ultra-soft and can get dust out of virutually any spot on a kit, without dammaging any parts.[:D]

jtilley is correct-- the Lindberg kit of the Diesel tug is the old Pyro mold. (Lindberg has a lot of the old Pyro molds.) The kit that Lindberg released as the “Coast Guard Tug” is indeed a generic tug with a wooden cabin and pilothouse.

The Pyro kit was a model of the Standard Oil Company Tug “Despatch No. 9” . It was based in the San Francisco Bay area. That’s why the kit has the large raised “S” on the stack. The kit scales out to somewhere between 1/77 and 1/82 scale- depending on how precisely you measure the model’s length.

Regarding those other Lindberg kits jtilley mentioned: The “War of Independence Schooner” is more fiction from the Marketing Dept at Lindberg. Too bad-- it is really a fairly decent redition of an 1830’s US Revenue Cutter.
At least the “Civil War Blockade Runner” is accurately identified. It is indeed the old Pyro kit of the US Revenue Cutter Harriet Lane, which served as a blockade vessel for Union Navy, and was captured by the Confederates in Galveston in 1863, and then used as a Blockade runner.

I agree with jtilley— I’ve always been disappointed with the Coast Guard’s representation in model form- especially the more modern equipment. This is why I compiled my list…

-Bill

We can’t blame the people at Lindberg entirely for these hoaxes. They originated with Pyro. The first time I built the…well, the one with the stack and the paddlewheels was in about 1963 or 1964. It came in a Pyro box labeled “Civil War Blockade Runner.” I was in junior high school (as us Olde Phogies called middle school) at the time, and had just read a novel about blockade running. (Wish I could remember the title and author.) I remember being bewildered by the fact that the kit included some guns, which, according to the book, blockade runners didn’t carry.

I bought the two-masted schooner kit in about 1967, when Pyro was selling it in a box labeled “Independence War Schooner.” On the side of the box was some utter hogwash about how it had served in the Texas War of Independence. By this time I had a copy of the Model Shipways catalog; it was no trick to figure out that the kit was a ripoff of the MS Roger B. Taney.

Actually the story is a little more complicated. The Model Shipways kit (which Pyro copied) was based on a set of plans for the Morris class of revenue cutters. MS brought out the kit shortly before the appearance of Howard I. Chapelle’s History of the American Sailing Navy, in 1949. In that book Chapelle established that the Taney looked somewhat different than the other ships of the class. (He’d found a set of plans, specifically identified as hers, in the National Archives.) The MS and Pyro kits would be better identified as representing one of the other ships in the class - such as the Alexander Hamilton.

Model Shipways wasn’t the only wood kit company that Pirate Plastics ripped off. Another in that first batch of Pyro sailing ships was the fishing schooner Gertrude L. Thebaud, which Pyro pretty clearly pirated from the Marine Models Corporation wood kit. That one has bounced around with deceptive identities, too. By the late seventies Pyro was calling it “American [sic] Cup Defender.” (Yeah, right…complete with two stacks of fishing dories.) I believe Lindberg is selling it under that label today.

Almost all the sailing ship kits currently being sold in Lindberg boxes have false identities. I wonder if the current Lindberg management has any idea of what those kits were originally.

I agree with rcboater: for their time - the very earliest days of plastic ship model kits - those Pyro kits were nice products. They came out in the mid-fifties, when the only other plastic ship kits on the market were the very earliest Revell ones. They had their problems; the detail on them was mighty basic, and some of the moldings were crude by modern standards. The Thebaud’s instructions told the modeler to drill 1/16" holes in the one-piece hull for the eyebolts that took the bowsprit rigging. The Taney featured raised outlines of the closed gunports on the insides and outsides of the bulwarks - but the lines on the insides and outsides didn’t line up. On the other hand, I liked Pyro’s approach to the Great Shroud and Ratline Problem a little better than Revell’s. Pyro (lifting the idea from Model Shipways) provided “deadeye combo units,” each consisting of the upper and lower deadeyes, a passable representation of the lanyard between them, and the chainplate. The modeler was to glue this part to the hull and seize the shroud - made of genuine thread - around the upper deadeye. That was marginally more realistic, and certainly a great deal sturdier, than those gawdawful plastic-coated-thread “shrouds and ratlines” that came in Revell kits.

Somehow I don’t think Rockythegoat intended this thread to become such an exercise in Olde Phogey nostalgia. But this is interesting stuff. Long live those old Pyro kits - preferably under their original names. And may some plastic kit company see the light and give us some more Coast Guard/Revenue Cutter Service/Lighthouse Service kits.

jtilley and all: I don’t mind the sidetrack down memory lane. It’s nice to know from whence the kits originated, so as to better use them or build them for the reason or purpose they were intended. I know most of the manufacturer’s have boxed stuff with the wrong decals, stories, color scheme, etc, under the guise of “marketing.” But hey, if it sells more kits, so the company can stay in business and release updated kits, that can’t be all bad. Besides, it gives us something to talk about on the forum!

So, in a nutshell, since the USCG is not correct for CG usage, I can pretty much hack it up and it won’t be too wrong. Won’t be too right, either, but, what the heck.

Also, wasn’t the “Carol Ann” the name of the Lindberg tramp steamer? Or was that only the “Carol?”

And to keep us sorta off track, what do you guys know about the Lindberg USCG patrol boat? I think it’s the Point class kit? That’s in the stash, also. My CG base (port / site / station/???) is gonna end up taking over the whole train layout!!

I’ve seen that kit once in the last ten years. It turned up on one of our contest tables. Looked like a good perpresentation of a 95’ to me. I always go into a hobby store with eyes wide open in hope of finding that kit. So if you don’t want it Ill take it!
I finally figured out the process of posting photos. Now, I’m just waiting for my secretary to take the time to do it. (I really don’t like some of the tech stuff).
Andy

I think the Lindberg “CG Patrol Boat” is a reasonable representation of the real thing - but I haven’t seen it in years. I believe it originally came out in the late fifties or early sixties. Those boats got modified quite a bit during their many years of service, and I assume the kit didn’t. (I think they got equipped with Zodiac boats, for instance.) It’s probably a reasonable representation of what the class looked like in about 1960.

As for the name “Carol Anne” - my memory has bogged down. (It does that with increasing frequency these days.) I associate it with a tugboat, but that may be senility. My recollection of a Lindberg tramp steamer is even more vague. I seem to recall that the company did a “Q-ship,” with “hidden” guns, in its “foot long” series (with a little direct-drive Mabuchi motor in some incarnations). There’s a hint of a memory of that one appearing with the words “tramp steamer” on the box floating around in the primordial ooze of my head, but that’s about it. Sorry.

To correct myself, I think the tramp steamer was called “North Sea Trawler” and was called the “Carol”. At least the one I have was. It’s also in my “can it be brought back” box.

Hoped to have updated status phots on the tug on Monday. Progress is slow.