FINISHED! Lindberg Coast Guard Tug Brought Back to Life!

MJHowe - That Thebaud in the original box probably is a valuable collector’s item. I don’t recall seeing one with a prepainted hull; that must have been dropped fairly early in the production history of the kit. I think I bought mine in about 1965; its hull was all black. Green is a believable color for anti-fouling paint on a fishing schooner of that era.

I agree completely about the quality of the kit - as a product of its time. The people who designed it were working out all the basic ideas for representing a sailing vessel in plastic. Their objective, apparently, was to enable the purchaser to build a model that looked like a Marine Models, Boucher, or Model Shipways solid-hull wood product, in considerably less time and for a lot less money. (If I remember right, the Pyro ships in that series originally cost about $3.00. Wood kits of the same size cost between $10.00 and $20.00 - a big chunk of money to spend on a hobby.) I think they succeeded - much to the displeasure of the wood kit companies.

I remember the skipjack kit you’re talking about. It was indeed made by Pyro. I think it originally had the name Carrie Price. It apparently was based on a set of plans for that boat that appeared in a book called American Ship Models and How to Build Them, by V.R. Grimwood, that was published in the late forties. (Some wood kit company may have sold a Carrie Price kit too, but I don’t remember it.) My recollection is that the Pyro kit had injection-molded plastic “sails,” but that they were “furled” fairly realistically. It was considerably smaller than the other Pyro kits we’ve been discussing; I think it sold for $1.50 or $2.00.

I wish somebody would make kits like that today, to modern standards. When newcomers ask me to suggest sailing ship kits to start with, my instinct is to say “pick a small ship in a large scale.” Unfortunately there aren’t many plastic sailing ship kits nowadays that fit that description.

To my knowledge there have been two plastic Bluenoses. Aurora did a simple, not-very-big one back in the fifties; I haven’t seen it for years. (I have a vague recollection that its hull was far too skinny, but that may be senility talking again.) And Academy/Minicraft did one far more recently - the late seventies or the early eighties. I’ve never seen the inside of that box. Academy and Minicraft split into two companies a few years ago. I’m not sure which, if either, is still selling the Bluenose.

There may indeed have been a motorized version of the Pyro skipjack - but if so it was, by definition, ludicrously inaccurate. The whole reason for the survival of the skipjack as the last working sailing craft in the U.S. is that it is - and has been for many years - illegal to dredge for oysters with a powered vessel in the waters of the state of Maryland. Skipjacks, by definition, do not have engines.

Nowadays each skipjack (there are only a dozen or so left) carries a “push boat” on stern davits. The push boat is a small, simple wood skiff equipped with a gas engine and a propeller. On certain days of the week the push boat is allowed to push the skipjack over the oyster beds. Nowadays the push boat usually has a set of cables controlling its throttle and rudder that run up to the stern of the skipjack. The captain operates the push boat by remote control with one hand and steers the skipjack with the other. The system looks kind of silly, but it’s been instrumental in keeping the skipjack alive.

The anti-plastic prejudice used to exist in the model airplane fraternity but, as MJHowe suggests, it seems to be just about gone. Plenty of model aircraft enthusiasts (especially the radio-control folks) build wood models, but they don’t seem to turn up their noses at the plastic modelers. Each side acknowledges that the other is involved in a different hobby - but not an inferior one.

For that matter, the model railroaders used to turn up their noses at plastic. Several generations of them thought the only “legitimate” material for a railroad car was wood, and the only “legitimate” material for a locomotive was metal (preferably brass). The plastic manufacturers have, I think, convinced the current generation of model railroaders that plastic is in fact an excellent, versatile material.

The sailing ship fraternity does indeed seem to be the last bastion of puritanism. Admittedly, a preference for wood in sailing ship models isn’t as irrational as it was in the airplane and railroad worlds. Most sailing vessels were, after all, made of wood. (The rationale that says wood is the only legitimate material for modeling a steel ship escapes me completely.) Plastic is, by plenty of reasonable definitions, not a good material for reproducing many parts of a sailing ship. (Styrene is great for hull planking. It’s wretched for masts and yards - except on large scales.) Also, some parts of a sailing ship don’t lend themselves to reproduction by the injection-molding process. (It’s almost impossible, for instance, to make an unstropped block or deadeye in injected-molded plastic. Styrene has to be cast in a rigid mold. A rigid mold, by definition, can’t cast an object with a hole through it and a groove around it.)

On the other hand, if the “purists” would look at the matter objectively they’d realize that the styrene molding process, in conjunction with the pantograph machine, has the potential to reproduce a lot of ship components with a precision that the scratchbuilder simply can’t match. The “carvings” on the best Heller, Revell, and Airfix sailing ship kits can stand comparison with the very finest of the old “Admiralty” models. The plastic molding process has the ability to function at a level of precision considerably beyond the capabilities of the human hand. If you don’t believe it, take a close look at a phonograph record.

I’ve been arguing for years that in terms of historical accuracy, (a) most of the plastic sailing ship kits on the market are garbage, and (b) most of the wood sailing ship kits on the market are worse. The argument is, however, almost completely academic, because the plastic sailing ship kit industry is, to all intents and purposes, dead. The three big manufacturers, Revell, Heller, and Airfix, haven’t released a genuinely new sailing ship kit in more than twenty years. Pyro is gone; Lindberg is selling thirty- and fifty-year-old kits in boxes with silly names on them. (I wonder if anybody in the company’s current management has any idea what those kits actually are.) Imai, which released some of the best sailing ship kits ever back in the seventies and eighties, is out of business.

There are a few small but bright lights on the horizon. Trumpeter and Zvezda have brought out a couple of new kits in the past few years, and some of the old Imai kits are turning up under other labels (at outrageous prices). Another Forum member indicated that one of the manufacturers is doing a medieval cog next year. (That, if it’s done well, would be a great starter kit.) Maybe we’ll see a resurgence of interest in plastic sailing ships. But I doubt it.

On another tangent - this thread turned over another small rock deep in the primordial ooze that is my memory. That Lindberg “North Sea Trawler” is another extremely old Pyro kit that started out as a Model Shipways ripoff. In its original Model Shipways solid-hull form it was named Hildina. I don’t remember whether Pyro ever gave it a name or not.

Just a couple more commnets/thoughts here… especially since some of these old kits are beginning to have as much and as diverse a history as some of the subjects they portray. jtilley is as usual correct on the histories of the kits. However the kit referred to as “Carol Ann” was in fact a model of the “Cheryl Ann” It was made by an independant model company in the early 1950’s and was available as a kit and or as a finished model. I only know this because of an old model distributer catalog I have somewhere around here that listed all kits from every company available at the time… when I unearth it I will get the company name. I have only ever seen this model once. It was a maybe 6 inches larger then the Pyro or Lindberg kits and it was amazingly detailed, particularly for the time. The one I saw was well over 20 years ago and was pretty badly damaged. I never bought it figuring I would some day find one in better condition but so far that day has never arrived. The “Cheryl Ann” was a based on a real tug and was the star of a television series called “Waterfront”. The tug in the series was painted up for the Wilmington Tow Company… same as Revell’s “Long Beach”. The show was produced I think between 1952 and 1956 .I managed to obtain a few slides taken on the set buy a studio hand and it is quite interesting to see in color what was only filmed and shown in black and white. Also there are other details you can see in the color stills you probably could not see in the show, most noticably being how the tugs real name was covered in boards (or cardboard) and painted black with a new name painted on the hull… (leaving a black rectangle raised on the hull side) probably because the original names were done in welded letters and the studio did not or was not given permission to remove them. I have never seen an episode of this show and almost nothing can be found on the internet or anywhere else but the fellow who took the slides not only dated them but identified which episode they were taken during the filming of. Episodes were filmed in Long Beach harbor and look fantastic in story and content, a lot of interesting shipping scenes going on in the background! The show was about the adventures of a tugboat crew and only the pilot house was a set in a studio. This bit of information may be a bit off the subject but the “Cheryl Ann” kit has got to rate as one of the rarest kits of all time.

As for the Pyro/Lindberg kit, if you want to see some interesting versions of built ups go to www.boatnerd.com → Art of the Model Builder → Model photo gallery → R/C Models by Scott Tomlinson You will see some interesting conversions.

In regards to the Lindberg tug, it may or may not be based on a real subject. It looks very typical of tugs that were around at the time the kit was first released and represents an earlier era when tugs were built by the thousands by various shipyards for numerous owners. It may be generic, it may not be and it is possible Lindberg chose to make a model of something more or less typical for the general public than a specific ship. I do know when trying to research Linbergs “Q-Ship” AKA “German Raider” which looks sort of like a WWI “laker” that by going over the many old drawing profiles printed in large format booklet form by the US Shipping board and now located in the Steamship Historical Society archives that this ship was not based on anything real which probably accounts for the strange looking stern for a ship in the era of which this kit is supposed to represent and leads us to belive that the Lindberg tug could very easily be one of their own design. The ironic thing is while Lindbergs raider appears to be made up, the Aurora German raider actually was based on a real ship… either that or they got lucky as it is a dead ringer for a photo I found of a 1930’s German freighter.

Aquitania - Very interesting indeed! I have an extremely vague recollection of that TV series - but not of the Cheryl Ann model.

I sure would like to see a photo of the box that Lindberg tug came in originally. I don’t think that name “Carol Ann” is a complete figment of my imagination - though that possibility can’t be ruled out.

Two other old Lindberg ship kits I haven’t seen in a long time: the Clermont and the Southern Belle. The former was a not-bad (for its time) reconstruction of Robert Fulton’s steamboat; it had a remarkably clever motorization system, which made the scale gears and crosshead work while the paddlewheels were turning. The Southern Belle was a stern-wheeler, also with a motor. I suspect it was a generic design rather than a scale model of a particular riverboat, but it sure was a fun kit for an elementary school kid.

As I run over the old Lindberg and Pyro kits in my mind (this is the first time I’ve thought about them in quite a few years) I’m rather surprised at how many of them there were - and how many rather daring and unusual subjects those companies picked.

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I agree completely about the quality of the Imai sailing ship kits. Unfortunately for me they appeared on the market - and disappeared - during a time when I didn’t have much money at my disposal (and I was working on a scratchbuilt model that didn’t leave me much time for other projects). I wasn’t able to buy most of them, but the ones I saw impressed me. I did buy the Imai Cutty Sark, which we’ve discussed in another thread of the Forum recently. I continue to think it’s the best representation of that ship in kit form, regardless of material. (The wood kit manufacturers don’t seem to be able to reconcile themselves to the fact that the *Cutty Sark’*s bulwarks are made of iron.) The Squadron website ( www.squadron.com ) announced a few days ago a “new” Cutty Sark under the Aoshima label. It’s quite obviously a reissue of the Imai kit. The bad news is the price: about $150.00.

I think MJHowe is right: Imai had some unusual method of casting large parts with a greater thickness than the other companies could handle. The key may have been the type of styrene Imai used. As I remember (it’s been a long time), the hulls of the larger Imai kits had a slightly metallic, speckled appearance that was quite different from the usual plastic kit. I wonder if the plastic had some stiffening material added to it. That might explain how such parts could be made so thick without sink marks or warping. The upper masts and yards of the Cutty Sark kit are out of scale, but at least the lengths, shapes, and arrangement of them make sense. The Heller people apparently didn’t quite understand how the rigging of a sailing ship works. (The Heller Victory provides no means of fastening the yards to the masts.)

To be fair, Imai never tackled a subject with really elaborate carvings. Airfix’s Wasa and H.M.S. Prince would be hard to beat in that department, as would the best of the Heller kits (the Victory and the galley La Reale, for instance) or, for that matter, the Revell Constitution. The Imai designers apparently didn’t have a translator to interpret the text on the plans of European ships. (That Cutty Sark kit contains a couple of small errors that, when compared to the George Campbell plans on which the kit is obviously based, are pretty funny.) But they sure knew how to make detailed, practical plastic kits. Among other features of the Cutty Sark kit that I liked, they did a fine job of simplifying the rigging without turning it into an arbitrary collection of threads. (Some of those Heller rigging diagrams are downright irrational.)

I’m glad to see those Imai kits coming back on the market. The problem is that, at such outrageous prices, I’m afraid they won’t sell. It would be great if the plastic sailing ship kit industry got a shot in the arm, but I’m not optimistic that this will be it.

MJHowe - if you like sailing vessels and you can arrange a trip to the neighborhood of Chesapeake Bay, put St. Michaels, Maryland on your itinerary. It’s the home of the Chesapeake Bay Maritime Museum. At several small harbors in that vicinity it’s still possible to see skipjacks in action, and even to take a cruise on board one of them. My wife and I did it a couple of months ago. I even got to handle the jib - and make a thorough fool of myself in the process.

The Lindberg Coast Guard Patrol Boat is a model of a Cape class 95 foot WPB.
The kit represents the boats as they appeared in late 1950s/ early 1960s, and includes hypothetical hedgehog launchers. (They were probably designed as proposed wartime upgrades, if needed.-- most USCG ships had proposed war fits of additional weapons.)

Lindberg last released a number of the old Pyro kits in the late 1980s, early 90s., as part of the “Classic Replica” Series. Subjects released then included the President Wilson Liner, the Civil War Blockade RUnner (Harriet Lane), the War of Independence Schooner (Roger B Taney), the Fulton, the Tuna Clipper, the Diesel Tug, and the Lightship Nantucket.

-Bill

rcboater - All those old Pyro kits ring large bells, with one exception. What’s the Fulton? Lindberg did its own reconstruction of Fulton’s Clermont (or, more correctly, “North River Steamboat of Clermont”); we’ve been discussing it recently in another thread of the Forum, as well as this one. But my foggy memory doesn’t recall a Pyro kit named Fulton. Can you describe it?

I’m trying to remember the old Model Shipways catalog. I’m quite sure of my recollection about that old trawler Hildina, which showed up in pirated form as the Pyro/Lindberg “North Sea Trawler.” I think the Pyro “Tuna Clipper” may also have been based on a Model Shipways design, but I’m not sure.

That old Nantucket Lightship kit is worth building. Lightships in general make interesting models. One of the most rewarding projects I worked on in my brief museum career was the restoration of a contemporary model of Lightship #40. It (the model) was about six feet long; it had been built for the Lighthouse Board’s section of the big U.S. Centennial Exhibition at Philadelphia in 1876. With the hoisting gear for its enormous lamp housings (complete with sheets of mica representing the glass in them), its enormous fog bell (the original had disappeared; I got to make a new one), and its huge smokestack (for the boiler that powered the bell-ringing mechanism and the foghorn), it represented 1876 ultra-high-tech. One of the most fascinating models I’ve ever seen. If only the kit manufacturers could be convinced to give us more lightships. There’s the old Frog/Novo British one, and Bluejacket released a nice wood one a few years ago, but a series of plastic ones - even on a small scale, sure would be fun. Well, we can dream.

Well now, this has been very interesting and educational as to the history of our plastic “fleets!”

As for the comments on the lightships, I agree. More, updated kits, please! [tup] I have both the Lindberg and Frog kits to complete (my sons say I’ll never get through my stack. My wife, who quilts and has what must , says has about 2,000 yards of fabric in her “stack” says there is a lot of fun …[^]) and as I’ve always been a lighthouse fan since I was a kid, these just go hand-in-hand with them. I plan on lighting the Lindberg kit somehow. May also do the Frog with lights, using that thar newfangled fiber optics stuff.

The tug is progressing slowly, as I’ve been busy designing my updated model railroad. (Gotta have a place to display my 1/87-ish boats don’t I?) But, I’ve gotten the stack cut down and capped. The handrail replacements are ready to be attached, and most of the seams are filled. Once I get the two pounds of dust cleaned off, the airbrush is gonna get fired up. Photos will follow, as soon as I get a chance…

Sorry about that-- got a little mixed up in my typing-- by “Fulton”, I meant, as some surmised., the model of Fulton’s “Clermont”.

I built the Lindberg (ex-Pyro) Nantucket kit about 15 years ago. It is not a bad kit at all, and is in 1/95 scale. I used it to use as scenery for our RC boat club’s navigation course. At 1/95 scale, it looks good next to 1/96 scale RC warships…

-Bill

I found the Lindberg tug with the “S” on its stack in my local hobby store on Sat. Almost bought it, but since I have other boats waiting to be constructed, I just walked out. Where were you guys 8 years ago?
Andy

This has been an awesome thread. I love the information provided regarding old kits.

MJHowe, I’m currently working on one of those Lindbergh paddle wheel boats that have the operating paddle wheels. UNfortunately, my kit was bought second-hand and doesn’t have the motor in it. I have several motors and have been trying to install a working system to make the paddles move. It’s taking longer than I thought.

I’ll post pics when I can, once I get a bit of progress done.

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My first attempt at posting pictures, click on the link and it will appear.

the secretary

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This is my interpretation of a CG tug. It was painted based on the CG manual from the early 80’s.

Andy

Beautiful model, Andy! Whether it matches an actual prototype or not, you’ve certainly captured the look and feel of a CG tug.

MJHowe - That Revell tug kit is a reissue of an extremely old one. It originally appeared under the name Long Beach, in about 1955 or 1956. (I’m at the office; my copy of Dr. Graham’s Remembering Revell Model Kits is at home.) It’s one of my all-time favorite plastic kits. I built it for the first time when I was six or seven years old; I’ve lost count of how many times I built it after that. I’ve got a new kit, in its supposed European markings (ugh!) in my pile of “to do” projects. I wish they hadn’t molded it in that dark red plastic. The original pale grey was easier to work with.

The detail on the kit is beautiful; it can stand comparison with most ship kits of today. I especially like the crew figures. Modified versions of them are helping to man a couple of my sailing ship models, the Bounty and the Hancock.

In one of its reboxings the Long Beach had an electric motor. A couple of remnants of that incarnation are visible on the current kit. Somewhere on the afterdeck (I don’t have the kit in front of me) there’s a faint, raised line in the shape of an oval. That was the hole where the switch for the motor stuck up through the deck; the line could be sanded off with little trouble. More conspicuously, on each side of the main deckhouse are a pair of mysterious-looking, blob-like lugs, about an eighth of an inch apart, next to the deck. In the motorized version the deckhouse was removable, so the batteries could be changed. A steel screws between the lugs held the deckhouse in place. If and when I build the new version, the first thing I’ll to will be to slice off the lugs.

Nice looking tug there! I hope mine ends up as spiffy looking! Very Cool!

I agree. I think the info in here would be nice to “sticky note” somewhere or whatnot.

I just took a look at my sample of the reissued Revell harbor tug (the former Long Beach). I was mistaken about the oval-shaped outline where the hole for the switch used to be; I can’t find it. I must have been recalling some other kit. Sorry about that; my poor old brain does stuff like that these days.

I was right about the lugs on the deckhouse sides, though. The locations for the old mounting screws also show up in the form of dimples in the deck.

I also looked up the kit’s history in Dr. Graham’s Remembering Revell Model Kits. It originally appeared (under the name Long Beach) in 1956. Dr. Graham says that original issue is worth $40-50. In that same year the kit also was issued as part of the “Merchant Fleet Set,” with the freighter Hawaiian Pilot (just reissued by Revell Germany) and the tanker J.L. Hanna (currently in the Revell Germany catalogue under the name Glasgow). In that incarnation the tug and the freighter had pre-painted hulls below the waterlines. That set is a real collector’s item; Dr. Graham estimates it as being worth $400-$500. The motorized version of the Long Beach came out in 1961. The kit was reissued once more under the name Taurus in 1974. That time it was molded in light brown plastic. (The previous issues were light grey.) Dr. Graham’s coverage ends with 1979. I think the current Revell Germany reboxing, in bright red plastic (ugh), is the only one since then.

Speaking of tugs - this evening I happened to catch a remarkable film on the Turner Classic Movies cable network. It’s called “The Key,” and stars William Holden, Sophia Loren, and Trevor Howard. It was made in 1958, and based on a novel by the great Dutch sea story writer Jan de Hartog. The plot is kind of weird and confusing, but it involves the captains of British salvage tugs during WWII. There’s some terrific footage of such tugs in action - along with a British submarine playing the part of a u-boat. Definitely worth watching for all tug enthusiasts.

Thanks for the compliments.
I have the Glencoe model sitting in my display cabinet. I’ll try to get my secretary to post photos.
Andy