What is a "Redleg"....for those who asked!!

Ok…for those who asked in Gino’s thread and some others here is some background information

Introduction
"The primary force of the US Army consists of the Combat Arms. The Combat Arms are comprised of the Field Artillery Branch, the Infantry Branch, and the Armor Branch. Of these three, the Field Artillery is known as the “King of Battle”. In the history of modern warfare it has always been the artillery that decided final victory on the battlefield. At the conclusion of WW II, General George S. Patton stated his army “could not have been as successful as it was without the Field Artillery.”

Branch Insignia:
Two crossed field guns, gold color metal, 13/16 inch in height.

Crossed cannons (field guns) for Artillery have been in continuous use since 1834, when they were placed on regimental colors, knapsacks, and as part of the cap insignia for Artillery officers. In 1901, the Artillery was divided into Coast and Field Artillery and the branch insignia was modified by the addition of a plain scarlet oval at the intersection of the cannons. The Field Artillery insignia, approved on 17 July 1902, had a gold wheel on the red oval, and the Coast Artillery had a gold projectile on the red oval.

Coast Artillery Insignia

This red oval and wheel was replaced on 4 April 1907 by two field guns. It was superseded in 1957 by the consolidated Artillery insignia consisting of the crossed field guns surmounted by a missile. In 1968 when the Air Defense Artillery and the Field Artillery were authorized to have separate insignia, the former Field Artillery insignia was reinstated.

Branch Plaque

Branch Plaque:
The plaque design has the branch insignia, letters and border in gold. The background is scarlet.

Regimental Insignia:
Personnel assigned to the Field Artillery branch affiliate with a specific regiment and wear the insignia of the affiliated regiment.

Regimental Coat of Arms:
There is no standard Field Artillery regimental flag to represent all of the Field Artillery regiments. Each regiment of Field Artillery has its own coat of arms that appears on the breast of a displayed eagle. The background of all the Field Artillery regimental flags is scarlet with yellow fringe.

Branch Colors:
Scarlet - 65006 cloth; 67111 yarn; 200 PMS.

The uniform for the Corps of Artillery, which was formed in 1777, included red trimmings. The plume on the hat was also red. Except for a short period at the beginning of the 1800’s when yellow was combined with it, scarlet has been the color of the Artillery throughout the history of the branch. Scarlet has been used by the Coast Artillery, Air Defense Artillery, and Field Artillery.

Birthday:
17 November 1775. The Continental Congress unanimously elected Henry Knox “Colonel of the Regiment of Artillery” on 17 November 1775. The regiment formally entered service on 1 January 1776. Although Field Artillery and Air Defense Artillery are separate branches, both inherit the traditions of the Artillery branch.

The term “Redlegs”:
Artillerymen are often referred to as “redlegs” for two reasons, dating back to the 1800’s. Red appeared on two artillery uniforms, 1) when artillerymen wore uniform trousers with a two-inch red stripe, and 2) when red canvas leggings were worn by horse artillerymen.

Information and image source: The Institute of Heraldry

so…now you know

Rounds Complete!!

Heh heh, I always figured “redleg” came from when soldiers did not take care to get their legs out of the way of recoiling field pieces. [:D] Now I know better! [8-|]

Brian

Between this and the vid in the K9 thread, I am really pumped up now!!! You the man!!

Me too. [:$]

Re:…

The term “Redlegs”****:
Artillerymen are often referred to as “redlegs” for two reasons, dating back to the 1800’s. Red appeared on two artillery uniforms, 1) when artillerymen wore uniform trousers with a two-inch red stripe, and 2) when red canvas leggings were worn by horse artillerymen.

You arty guys should be very proud. As for us (old) ONE-ONE-BUSH (Infantry) types, well… we’re… well, ummmm… er… I’m… proud to say that we… ah… I… ah… can (still) do it without our… ah… my… pants/leggings on.

[clwn]

Mike,

Good description of the ‘rear’ combat arm known as ‘Party with the Arty’ [:P]

Of course the ‘QUEEN’ of battle, as in chess is the most powerful,and we just love our pale blue color…[+o(]

Thankk goodness we jarheads are not taken by shiny baubles like branch insignia and our only colors are Scarlet and Gold,

Just kidding!!!

Drop 100 and fire for effect! Bicycle brigade in the open!!! [B]

It’s a rather common saying that the artillary is the infantry’s queen. But just as importantly there has not been a true line engagement since 1951, so just where is the rear?

gary

“What is a RedLeg”…They support the Doggie who’s takin’ ground, and tug their own lanyards. They toss their rounds around the ground and head off for a drink. But when ya call they’re standin’ tall… downing another round! Still they’re good to have around, long live the scarlet and yellow [6]

The above from FM-39-1"Clearing the NCO Club 101", Doggies Gotta Have Fun, Section 2, Paragraph 3, Restricted Distribution, 30 January 1968

All in fun, but we’re true blue and doggies to the end [H]

True Gary very True,just joking,in a traditional sense…

Having been an Infantry officer ,usually only folks in front of us are not being real nice …

Not meaning to say that anyone in today’s environment is not in danger…I respect all MOS’ ,and all that serve or served…

Guys - first I LMAO reading this…the comments never change…best part, we are all brothers [;)]

Gino…I smell the muzzle blast[:D]

Love the comments

Rounds Complete!!

Jayhawkers, Red Legs, and Bushwhackers are everyday terms in Kansas and Western Missouri. A Jayhawker is a Unionist who professes to rob, burn out and murder only rebels in arms against the government. A Red Leg is a Jayhawker originally distinguished by the uniform of red leggings. A Red Leg, however, is regarded as more purely an indiscriminate thief and murderer than the Jayhawker or Bushwhacker. A Bushwhacker is a rebel Jayhawker, or a rebel who bands with others for the purpose of preying upon the lives and property of Union citizens. They are all lawless and indiscriminate in their iniquities.

Not that this has anything to do with our Redleg,but I do remember this from the the Clint Eastwood movie Josey Wales a great movie.

In “The Outlaw Josey Wales,” the men they were referring to as Redlegs were former Artillerymen who had become bounty hunters and were tracking Josey. Hence the wear of red leggins.

FA- The King of Battle. We put the balls where the Queen wants them.

“so just where is the rear?”

Anywhere you see an MP Humvee…

(In my humble opinion, I think redlegs make the best model builders because of our attention to detail! ha!)

And remember, the Army used the Caisson Song to make it the Army Song!

Particularly as an FSO amongst maneuver guys, I prefer to sing, “…and it’s hi-hi-hay, the Field Artilleray!” just to raise a few eyebrows.

Also Saint Barbara is the patron saint of the Artillery. We have a ball every year where her medal is awarded and lots of “Artillery Punch” is drunk.

13E - FDC (Fire Direction Center or Food, Donuts and Coffee)

I read a previous post as well as a couple others, and I could see that they were rather outta touch (trying to be nicer than I usually am). Arty and Infantry work hand in hand, and it’s fairly common for them to be very close to each other when at work… But neither one can do it all by themselves. So at two in the morning the guy gets on the horn for a fire mission. If it’s a leg unit they are working with the range will often be in the eight thousand yard area or even closer. But these same guys shooting for that infantry will also be picking up other missions constantly from other units and FAC planes. Seldom are you awarded the fringe benifits of firing a couple rounds from each tube and then heading over to the beer hall. Just don’t work that way. The same goes with the guys on the otherend of the game. Just cause they got into an ambush and then shot the place up with 155mm rounds dosn’t mean they are all going lay down and take a nap. I wouldn’t want to be on eitherside without the otherone cover my backside.

Lastly when speaking about the rear and the beer hall; ever shoot a charge one green bag with a second and a half on a VT fuse? Or a beehive out of a 105? When you do this there usually ain’t no beer hall within twenty miles

gary

I never knew that! We had Doghnut Dollies once.

gary

Charge 1 green bag??? Go idea for a sticker. We never did less them a charge 3 GB. I had a FDO try to do charge 2 green bag, high angle. The gun cheifs just about lynched him.

“Killer Junior” is awesome to watch from a 155mm. I think that was a charge 2 with a HE - VT set-up.

Also shooting Ilumination with a battery one round of White Phosphorus under it is cool to watch.

Charge One Greenbag is almost a guaran-damn-teed sticker on a '109A3… Can’t fire them in training anywhere… Range Control regs prohibit anything less than charge three greenbag, near as I can remember…

Heh… One time, there was a gun (#3) set up to fire a “Dale Evans” (Immediate Suppression) and the gun was laid with the deflection, quadrant of the target and an HE/Quick/Charge five in the tray. Anyhoo… The call came to fire it and all I saw was biggest sheet of flame I ever saw in my life come outta the tube, and just roared! Kept burning for a couple seconds and the crew was un-azzing the gun hollerin’, “BLOW BY!!! BLOW BY!!!” After the flame died, the tube was smokin’, the was some smoke comin’ outta the turret, and we were waitin’ for the round to cook off an’ go BOOM…

We all kept our distance from that piece for about an hour… Then the Chief, myself (I was Number Two’s Chief and was the only one who’d ever handled a real sticker before), the Smoke, and the XO headed to it to punch the sticker… The Gunny crawled in and popped open the breech, looked inside the bore, and started to laugh his azz off…

See… The Joe had been pulled off the tray to get a fuze-change and something distracted them long enough to forget to put it back on the tray, but the powder was still there instead of going back in the bustle… (It was still sittin’ on the floor in the floor rack with the new fuze) The Chief wasn’t on the gun (the XO safed it instead). When the “Dale Evans” got called, the Number One cannoneer thought the round had already been rammed since he didn’t see it, so he just threw the charge in and primed it… POOF! BIG fireball, no BOOM…