USS Alaska CB-1 now building

I’m looking into doing a modernized Alaska with the Trumpeter 1/350 kit and I’m trying figure out what all the junk is on her decks fore and aft.

The gun tubs are obvious but there’s all these what look like buildings all over the place. Vents? Machine rooms? Obviously they had a purpose in WWII but whether they’d be needed in a modern version is the question. I’d like to have an idea before I start chopping stuff off.

And the cable reels are another question. No clue what they were for. I have Warship Pictorial for Alaska but it’s not much help in describing what all the stuff is.

Do you have a photo? Hard to picture what you are describing. Some could be ammo lockers for the smaller guns such as 20mm.

At the very least, there will be cable reels for mooring lines when the ship is underway. Shoul be something like one forward, one aft and about five on each side.

I’ve looked at a few photos. On the fore deck there are at least four big capstans and two smaller ones.

The big ones are covered in fitted canvas tarps and look like big soft cylinders. They seem to look that way on the model- Trumpeter may not have given them much thought.

Some of the reels are for refueling or firefighting so they would probably remain. Most of the boxes on the deck would be, as Stik said, ammo lockers or other such storage conatiers. I’m thinking most of them can go along with the AA guns. You may want to add some 50’s, CIWS, and it depending how modern you want to go and SSDS system, Sea-Sparrows and/or RIM-67/68 launchers for defence, RGM-84 Harpoon launchers, Cruse missles and depending on how ambitious you are, maybe a VLS somewhere.

sounds like a fun project.

Arise, dead post! Lol. I’d forgotten about this post with life going on.

When I get home today, I will get a bunch of shots of the pieces I’m looking at removing(if they aren’t relevant to a modern Alaska.)

Modelcrazy, my initial thought is a modernized Iowa light; the open center section where the catapults are would be filled in with a missile deck mounting Tomahawk/Harpoon launchers as on Iowa but if there’s enough room, I’d like to add a few more. (Can never have too many missiles, ya know!)

CIWS mounts I’m thinking to go on some of the existing 40mm spots or maybe where the fore and aft 5" mounts are but I like the 5"'s where they are so probably won’t do that.
On the stern, I’m looking at installing a helicopter pad but I need to stick a 1/350 chopper on there to see if there’s enough room as is or if I’d need to scratch a larger landing area.

As I am looking at doing a similar thing, I picked up a set of plans for research. Those little ‘buildings’ are clipping rooms; sort of like ready storage for the 20mm’s and 40mm’s. The cable reels are as others have said; mooring line stowage.

With removal of the aft clipping rooms and a few other modifications; vents, hatches, etc., there is space for a one spot helo deck with out much problem.

My version is considering a hybrid partial flightdeck, in either of two versions; one with a deck about 6’-8’ above the existing deck and the other with a hanger bay below. but, in either case, there is lots to investigate before the start.

Check out the thread ‘Ship Conversions / Modernizations’ on page 2 of the ‘General Modeling Discussions’.

Thanks! I had a very strong suspicion those little buildings had to do with ammo storage given their close proximity to the guns.

The cable reels serve many purposes. One is to stow wire lines to need–so you need several sizes. The other is to stow “fiber” line, also in several sizes.

All sorts of “needs” on warships. Buoy lines for anchors, lifeline repairs, rigging for painting platforms over the side; every possible lashing ro hoist or underway replenishment rigging, too. On capital ships, the rigging to plumb ammo down to magazines is mde up to order–dropping main battery ammo or powder charges can create Significant Emotional Events, and are thus avoided.

There will be lockers about the deck to stow items like shackles, eyes, shackle pins, tools, mousing lmarline and the like. Some lockers will have tackle for hoists and the like, too.

And, there’s a Division Officer who will have inventoried the lot and is responsible for it all, and have to keep up with all the LPO monitoring how the Deck Apes use (& dispose of) such gear. The alos fall under the keen eyes of the Department Head, the XO, and the CO, all of whom might randomly stroll the decks and notice anything amiss.

Now, ventilators.

Generally, the propulsion plant stays the same. It’s controls & instruments might change, but, generally the basic thermodynamics do not change. So the number and location of vents does not much change. Deleting a vents also typically entails having to fill in the “hole” in the armored decking the vent passes through. So, such things are generally kept in place.

Any excess in venting gets taken up for increased use as ventilation for crew quarters.

When a/c stowage hangers are displaced, it’s usually to serve helo, instead, so the fuel bunker vents and filler are retained–only the machinery for catapaults is removed, typically.

Deck stuff typically remains deck stuff.

True, But . . . You can’t really delete a vent, intake or discharge. But you can relocate it. The vents in question on the aft end of Alaska, primarily service berthing and messing spaces. so, if they can’t penetrate the aft deck where they ‘are/were’, they need to be either relocated (meaning lots of reducting inside the ship), or they need to be rerouted topside (meaning between the flight deck and the main deck.)

This was a point I was trying to make on another thread; one can simply rebuild a model to fit their concept, but the true rebuild also takes into consideration all of the shipboard systems affected by the proposed change, as if it were a real ship.

Sorry for the delay, Stik. I’m a notorious procrastinator.

Heres a picture of the fantail; the circled items are the specific ones I was looking at. I’m assuming the cables are tow cables, so those can go.
Near the cables, those two boxy things look like vents.

By it’s size and position between the quad forties, I’m thinking that big building is ammo storage, and the item by the turret looks like another vent to me. Pretty sure there’s also one to starboard.

I was thinking instead of a helicopter pad on the stern, putting the Tomahawk launchers there. Say, 3-4 to a side and angled out about 20-30 degrees to each side.

Then the old 40mm ammo locker could be labeled as “Marines Guard Shack.”

Thoughts?

Okay, as for the photo; circled items, from bow to stern / left to right;

Vent, Mooring line faked out for use, 20mm Clipping Rooms, Mooring line faked out for use, 40mm Clipping room. That round thing near the starboard side 20mm clipping room is a capstan, for handling mooring lines.

The ship is probably about to enter port, otherwise those mooring lines would probably be on the reels or stowed elsewhere.

As for your flight deck, look at the amount of space between the aft turret, if pointed outboard, and the 40mm clipping room. Then get the specs for the rotor circle of your intended helo. See if you have enough room. you dont want anything even close for a possible rotor strike.

Also, with the hatches and other stuff in the area, you will probably have to raise your flight deck above the regular deck level some.

If you are putting launchers back there, look at the blast sweep area for problem items, and do you really want things that big back there? The tomahawks are in those armored box launchers, which ain’t small and take up a bunch of deck space.

I’m looking at putting mine in an arrangement more like the Iowa classers, since in ‘my’ scenario, the modernizations are at about the same time (in theory).

Have Fun !!! and keep us in the loop.

I have not ordered my kit yet; still have too much other stuff on my plate.

Hull color applied. Plain old Rustoleum Primer red from Lowe’s.

Time to start the modernization process on the main deck.
40’s and 20’s tubs taking the first whack.

More progress tonight. Gun tubs removed from deck and aft deck on the stern that was built lower for some reason is now built up equal to the main deck.
Launchers and helicopter test fitted to see which would be more likely.

Just remember, the vents have to stay or be rerouted, and there isn’t room below decks to do it. So, the rerouting must be above the main deck level.

My issue is trying to find out which ones are supply and which are exhaust, as it makes a difference in how / where they are routed.