Just to let you all know, I recieved an email earlier today from SPRUE BROS. they recieved their first shipment in.
For the $$ it cost you would think they could at least get the floor right, it’s curved like on a P-51A, it’s supposed to be flat, also they missed on the wing spar in the main gear bay. not to mention Trumps failure to reproduce the Mustangs Laminar flow wing. I guess these things are fixable, but i’m not about to spend 75 to a hundred bucks on a model that needs major surgery just to make it reasonably accurate. after their super nice P-47’s, you’d think they would research one of the most popular modeling subjects a little more carefully[:(]. And there are NO shell ejection holes in the lower wing not even ones that are molded over.
For the $$ it cost you would think they could at least get the floor right, it’s curved like on a P-51A, it’s supposed to be flat, also they missed on the wing spar in the main gear bay. not to mention Trumps failure to reproduce the Mustangs Laminar flow wing. I guess these things are fixable, but i’m not about to spend 75 to a hundred bucks on a model that needs major surgery just to make it reasonably accurate. after their super nice P-47’s, you’d think they would research one of the most popular modeling subjects a little more carefully. And there are NO shell ejection holes in the lower wing not even ones that are molded over.
Oh, a fellow Trump Jumper, I see. It seems modelers are either:
A. Dazzled by the selection Trumpy offers, so they overlook glaring issues, or
B. They’ve lowered their expections when they spend their hard-earned money.
Fix a wing section? Not for that kind of money. In time, I reckon Trumpy will cure the spotty performance issues. Meanwhile, you spends your money, you makes your choices.
My LHS received a shipment of the “B” model today and it goes for $95. Unfortunately I did not have a look see inside the box[BH]
As for the “Laminar flow” wing, yes they came off the assembly line like that. However, once they were pressed into service, and the crews did their thing, the “Laminar Wing” deal went to the wasteside…By this I mean removing panels to access the structure and the like…
Besides this is a Hobby, it is suppose to be fun… Your a modeller, deal with it…[;)] Just like my saying goes " If you would listen to everybody about the inaccuracies, most of the kits on your shelf would not have been built"
Heck I may even get one of these…
Flaps up,
Mike
Rangers Lead The Way
I have no problem with niggling issues, Butz. You know that. All kits have them - there is no perfect kit. I built the Eastern Europe kits BEFORE they were the rage. There were some stinkers there - say ‘LTD’ or ‘Kopro’ with me.
But $100 for a kit and it has glaring faults? Surely you remember the Corsair from a few weeks ago. Sure it came out alright - good skills, there took care of that. But the gear legs were WAY too long - several people commented on that. As I recall, there were some other issues with the kit, too. So you either buy correction parts or scratchbuild. Fixable, yes. Should you have to?
This is what I meant by our own expectations having lowered. When you get an older Monogram kit, you know it isnt completely right, but it only costs $10. Now you’re asked to spend 10 times as much on this new generation maquette, but the standards aren’t necessarily better. Yet we rush out to spend our dough, anyway?
Consider it this way. Lets say you bought a new Lexus, drove home and found out it had something major wrong with it the next day. What would be your response? You’d get back to that dealer in a hot minute, right? Now lets say there was really nothing the maker could do but tell you to correct it yourself. What now?
Ive said Im biased before - when I came up, models cost a dollar. But lets face facts. You’re expected to pay this much money for something you may have to start correcting right out of the box? - and you’re good with that?
GEEZ, Mike, Thank you. I was begining to think I was waisting my money on something I wanted to buy and build.Your right, this is a hobby. You should build what you want dispite others influence. Dont mean to upset anyone…I`m paying $72.21 for it Not bad for full price. I usualy buy off of ebay and save about half at least. But i wanted first crack at it.Keep building what you like guys…
Hey Dave,
No worries my friend… It was not towards you… It was suppose to be a general comment. Yea I do remember that Corsair build and I know it was a bear to do…
Am I ok with that? Not sure how to explain… I understand that these kits like Trumpeter cost a pretty penny and yes I expect it to be right on knowing that we have advanced technology like we do.
What I think what I am trying to say is, if these kits were dead on, after awhile building would be well kind of dull…
Yes I want the kit to be right on as I mentioned, however I do not want to loose any sleep over minor inaccuracies…
However I do understand in the case of the Corsair’s landing gear being to long, that should have been caught in the making… At least get all the measurments correct, shape, detailing correct… The other items can be delt with
Then again,take an average builder like John Doe, he loves to build yet he is not up on the info like we are… is he gonna care… I truly think not… If he likes that particular plane, he’s gonna build it…
Hopefully you understand what I mean Dave… Again it was not geared towards you or anyone in general…
Flaps up and Blue skies forever,
Mike
Rangers Lead The Way
Your quite welcome DH…!! I am kinda interested in seeing what she looks like myself…!! Let me know w hat you think!!!
Flaps up,
Mike
Rangers Lead The Way
I have to agree…I’d be pretty seriously unhappy to pay a c-note to have to conduct even relatively minor surgery…I mean, jeez - on their first P-51 they molded the props backwards - and considering the physical cost of designing the tooling, and then cutting the tooling (literally hundreds of thousands of dollars for a kit like this) you’d think they could get it right…
I’d rather spend $80 on a 1/48 Eduard Fw-190 and get a very high quality kit than spend $80 on a 1/32 kit that’s of questionable accuracy…I mean, I’m no rivet counter, by any means, but I’d expect more for my money.
Trumpeter like all of them have there good kits and the no so good kits. In trumpters defence the bf109G’s are excellent kits. There me262 are the best on the market in terms of both accuracy and buildability (if that’s a word[%-)] ). on the flip side trumps 1/24 fw190D-9 has it’s share of problems. You really have to go on a kit by kit basis and take into consideration what important to you. to some people accuracy is very important to others not so much.
I do agree for the price trumpeter is asking and the scale of the kit in question the accuracy should already be in the box. You should get what you pay for so to speak. This is the reason I don’t have a 1/24 D-9 but went with the hasegawa 1/32 D-9.
Don’t get me started with the laminer flow wing thing. [}:)]
Ok Phoenix we wont…[:P][;)]
Hey Lee,
If I am not mistaken your refereing to the Dragon P-51 correct?
Flaps up,
Mike
Rangers Lead The Way
Whoops!!! I stand corrected!! Mea Culpa…
Hey Lee,
Just curious, what did you mean by the above statement… If one is gonna point out a flaw, just make sure its the correct mfg… No harm no foul…
Flaps up,
Mike
Rangers Lead The Way
I would just like to see balanced critisism of the kit rather than the hype that Trumpeter seems to get. I would like a P-51B but no way in h^%l am I paying that much for a 1/32 kit, accurate or not! I think I may just buy the rerelease of the very old revell kit to do the model i’m after.
I would just like to see balanced critisism of the kit rather than the hype that Trumpeter seems to get.
Trouble is, many reviewers have some stake in the review going well. You see this in most reviews, not just is modeling. Only where there is no connection to the maker can you get an unbiased review.
Also, I do believe that Trumpeter is just blowing everyones socks off with the sheer volume of products they’re churning out. Personally, I think Trumpeter is one reason the price of gas continues to rise - they are sucking up all the oil in the form of plastic!
Seriously, it’s hard to fault them when they are making eveyone so delirious.
Well i had the chance to get a CLOSE look at this kit courtesy of my LHS, the fuselage looks real nice, however for this scale, they could have done better, the floor is wrong for this variant, as are the formation lights, gunbay hatch’s, no shell ejection ports, and the cockpit, Well it’s there.
Jeebus, so is it doable? do you think its worth it. Im still waiting on mine from GM. No matter what I AM going to build it, but Id like your oppinion. Thanks…
If you don’t mind the innaccuracy’s and doing some surgery for the ejection ports and intend on building it oob, yeah it’s doable, however, i’d get Eduards PE seatbelt/harness set for it, the kit suplied set are kinda thick imo. personally i’m holding out for Hobbycraft’s P-51A, have been for quite some time now.
thanks JEEBUS, but one more ?? (this is for anyone out there) given the scale and the fact you really dont see much interior, including the floor, is this REALY a big deal (with the curved floor)? And how far off are the marker lights? I want to build as a TUSKEGEE aircraft, so it wont be compleetly OOB. I know this has been a touchy subject with some, but would like good as bad comments…Thanks
Actually when complete the pit should be quite noticable, including the floor. As for the marker light’s there for the P-51D. I might get one just for the sake of having it, at my LHS it’s only 59.95USD.