I got some bottles of Vallejo’s Model air acrylics, but I don’t have any of Vallejo’s thinner. What can I use instead of their thinner? I gave Tamiya thinner a go and it didn’t seem to work very well, is this the case for other people too? Or can I use water?
Also, do the model air range of paints need any extra thinning before spraying? It looks thin, but I thought I’d check anyway.
And finally, what is everyone’s opinion of these paints. I’ve heard good things about them, but are they any better than Gunze or Tamiya? Is it worth changing over to Vallejo? I’m just trying them out at the moment but would like your opinions.
Daniel, as far as I’m aware the Model Air range are pre-thinned ready for spraying.
Don’t use an alcohol based thinner as these paints don’t react well, as you have already found out. Just use distilled water, as i found that works fine.
The other thing I found was to ensure that the surface being painted has been properly primed, I didn’t realise this the first time I used them, and the paint just shredded each time I handled the model.
From a purely personal perspective, I didn’t find them any better than Gunze, but then others swear by them.
I’d say the same, I haven’t used Gunze but from what I hear about them I would believe Karl in that they are equal or better than Vallejo. I don’t have a readily available supplier of Gunze so Vallejo is what I work with. And love!
For thinning I would used distilled water as Karl said. In fact on their Color of Eagles bottle line it says to use distilled water 10 - 15% max to thin. So I would try that… and Model air is supposed to be thinned already, but on thier site it says one drop of their thinner to 3 drops of paint. so if you have any probs spraying it just plop a drop or two of distilled water into it! I would be interested to hear your take on them once you play with them a bit… there doesn’t seem to be a lot of Vallejo users around.
I have just started using Vallejo myself, Everthing I have read tells me that they are prethinned but I have not used it enough to form a opinion. The few bits that I have a/b have turned out fine.
I tried spraying them unthinned last night and although they sprayed ok it seem to clog a bit as I was doing it… gonna stick with the one drop of thinner to 3 drops paint on thier site… I gotta say when thinned they go on smooth… takes a few coats to cover but I like the finish, not grainy and even coverage.
Vallejo should only be thinned with water. Other thinners, especially alcohol based may cause an unwanted reaction ( ask me how I know ). You have been warned [:)].
Personally I use their brand of thinner… this guy at the LHS that was showing off a few of his builds talked me into it. (swwet paint jobs on those birds!) All he uses is Vallejo and Gunze… he really stood by using their thinner… of course the bottle says distilled water on it, so if I run out I might try it with just that…
When I first used Vallejo, I tried thinning it with denatured alcohol, which works with the other brands of acrylics I was using. It quickly coagulated into a mass of lumpy goo. That’s when I read the bottle & found that water should be used. Works just fine with plain old tap water.