The best filter colour over Panzer grey?

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I read somewhere that the best filter colour for Panzer grey is green. Can anyone confirm this at all or offer some extra advice?

cheers and thanks

Mike

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??? Not sure really. Guess it depends what AO the tank/vehicle is in. Olive Green certainly works on my Tunisian Tiger 1.

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…for what effect…???

…a lot of different washes/filters over the entire tank, according to location, and the effect you are seeking, is/are the best colors…

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It would be upper hull mainly and in 1:72

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For whatever it is worth to you, the filter produced for Panzer Grey by MIG Productions (“SIN Industries”) is actually a blue color…which makes sense, since blue and grey have similar tonal qualities. I think grey is more similar to blue than to green.

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Blue.

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Being that tanks usually operate in dusty conditions, I usually go with a dust/tan shade, mixed from raw umber+White+a pinprick of yellow for panzer gray finishes. This enables you to later DB it in base color gray, and then you can also pick out details in black.

Of course. if you have the moxy to attempt it, I would also reccomend the “dot” method…

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If I read the question right it asks about the filter colors.

I filter Grey with blue, and then a VERY thinned black.

It gives a nice tonal variation.The filter is very different from washes.Once the filters are completely dry then the weathering washes can be applied.

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That is correct. I will go for a blue then. Any shade? Paynes grey? Or an ultramarine blue?

MIG products seem to be very hard to get here in Perth, Australia, so I will have to make do with an traditional acrylic paint filter.

The dot method looks great but needs a paint mule for experimentation. I aint got the intestinal fortitude to try that on my little Sturer at this point in time.

I will dirty up the surface with the appropriate shades of dirt as well.

cheers

Mike

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Mission Models carries all of the MIG filters–I suspect they would ship to Australia. Mission Models has a lot of cool stuff–like the Dragon King Tiger with molder Zimmerit on pre-order.

http://www.missionmodels.com/home.php?cat=272&sort=productcode&sort_direction=0&page=3

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Thanks for the info. Unfortunately the cost of USPS postage is pretty expensive these days for international orders which puts three bottles of product close to AU$80. That is a tad rich for my blood. The images though gave me a good look at the shade of blue they use. I should be able to match that blue with Vallejo.

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Just use paynes Grey oil paint it should work just fine. And Cheaper! [swg]

Rick

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Hey Mike,

I’d go with what Richard said.I went out on a limb and got some of the Sin filters.Really easy as they are premixed but it wasn’t worth the money IMO.

Good oils are just as good and they last forever.

I personally wouldn’t filter Grey with another Grey.The idea is to slightly change the tonal qualities of the finish.But it’s worth a try I guess.Also, I see you mentioned Vallejo.That’s an acrylic and I doubt you’d get the effect you want.Enamels or oils are your best bet.

Have fun!!

Andy

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Andy

The Paynes Grey I have is an acrylic type in a tube. I will pop out and buy a tube of oil paint in that colour.

My base colour has been done in Vallejo acrylics so the use of an oil filter or wash should pose no problem .

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G’day mate,

I usually just shoot the model with a “lightened panzer gray” into the panels, post shade with “smoke” in the seams and shadowed areas, then apply a range of filters, then finish with pigments…

Steve

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…nice…what kits are they?

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Mike,

If you want to look at buying the set locally, you should be able to order a set from Southeast Hobbies in Victoria. http://www.southeasthobbies.com.au/catalogue/mig-productions/#Pigments It’s listed at $29.95 and postage to WA should be arounf $8.00

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This looks most promising!

cheers and thanks

Mike

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I follow the dot method like Doog does. If you have Mig’s book on detailing, he also shows how to use the dot method. A pre-mixed filter would have the disadvantage of all vehicles looking the same. Adding some more White, Naples Yellow or Yellow Ochre can give a more bleached out appearance to a vehicle before adding dust to it.

Mike T.

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Hmmm

I am assuming that the dot method is best on non glossed surfaces?