Have seen some resent debate in the local IPMS and on missing-lynx about the tank actually having a 2 colour camo. The sceme would have been a ‘Tropen’ Scheme. Now ‘Tropen’ to me meens tropical (Tropisch) ie an DAK like scheme. The tank supposively fought in South Russia which would make sence.
I have a black and white pic of the thing which defenatily looks 2 coulour, but it is copyrighted and was removed from missing-lynx because of that.
2 colours?
Help please!
That would be earth over mouse grey right?
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Or rather sand over panzer grey.
I am confused as you can see, the missing-lynx thread suggests olive green over panzer grey.
This will have impact on my 250/3, I know it is a limited subject but I am still curioues enough to ask the question.
On the last page on Jentz and Doyle’s Germany’s Tiger Tanks, they spell out the RAL colors for the Tropen Scheme, as I posted above. If someone has a problem with Jentz and Doyle’s research, I not sure who or what is going to be more accurate than they are. I take them to be the last word on the subject of German armor. These colors also match with color plates of Tiger I’s I have in Tropen Scheme.
Thank You Kykeon. I was not questioning J&D, I just could not find the RAL colour plates.
The fact that the RAL colours are often translated incorrectly does increase the possible level of missunderstanding :S
Conclusion:
Dunkelgelb (RAL 8020) over Grey (RAL 7027) 70-30%, Africa 42-
or in english, mid standard dark yellow over mice grey.
The important notice is that you can do Emil in a 2 tone scheme
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The link is VERY good, it gets into basic facts as how applied colours depending on basic colours used in the formula react to the environment, ie sun light vs cloudy skies, forrest green vs field yellow. Avesome, thanks Kykeon!
My J&D comment was intended for those folks on other forums who question J&D’s conclusions.
The changes in the RAL system, along with translation problems, has certainly lead to a lot of confusion. I see “Mouse Grey” as RAL 7005. The site I listed shows RAL 7027 and 7026 as the same color, the result of the RAL system change, I assume? Here they list it as “Granitgrau” or Granite Grey.
I know Kykeon, that is why I think your link is so cool!
The RAL system should be used as a reference and is more complex then appreciated at first glans.
And your link was a real eye opener!
First it says that the actual visual ‘image’ of the base colour is depending on the surruonding colours.
And suggest that care was taken when choosing the right mixture of base colours (red, yellow, blue) taking daylight sun into account.
If your tank is displayed in a sandpit under shining sun, Dunkelgelb looks pale white.
If your tank is displayed in a green environment its yellow to brownish.
Secondly it suggests that regardless of base it depends on the diluting liquid that was choosen at the time of application (diesel, gas, water, solvent) how close the final colour acctually came to the base.
Thirdly it says that some units did not bother but found excuses (righfully or not) about paying little attention to general orders
7026 and 7027 are the same colour according to the chart, the reference to ‘mouse grey’ was from a previous link and is missleading, sorry about that.
The grey used is lighter then ‘panzer grey’.