Just wondering if anyone else here would be interested in starting a trivia game like the one in the armor and a/c forums.
If so, first one to chime in gets to ask the questions.
David
OK, since no one else is going to stick their neck out, I will. ("Never volunteer ', they said) What carrier was the first to be built with an angled flight deck as part of her original design?
subfixer, british or american as the british were the ones who 1st came up with the angle deck idea?
It is a USN carrier. The key is that until this one was built, the angle decks were add-ons.
I would say that although USS Midway ran sea trials with an angled-deck, it was not part of original construction. The first carrier built with an angled deck was USS Antietam (CVA 36).
Cheers,
RODC
I have one…what was the very first battleship (any nation) to mount 16" guns???
RODC
I believe the first was USS Forrestal CVA-59 keel laid July 1952.
Yankee Clipper
Sorry, you have to answer a question correctly first to ask one.
Good Luck,
David
I think Nagato was the first BB with 16 inchers.
your right
1st designed but not built was the uss united states.
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/ship/cva-58-schem.htm
the 1st built as such was the forrestal
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/ship/cv-59-schem.htm
So far, no one has submitted the correct answer to the first question concerning the angle deck. While the answers given are valid observations, the question is the first CV laid down and built with an angle deck as part of her original design. The Forrestal was not originally designed to incorporate an angle deck although it was built with one.
I always thought it was the USS Ranger.
How Bout the Kitty Hawk?
Enterprise CVN 65
You are absolutely, positively CORRECT!! USS Ranger (CVA-61) was the first carrier to be laid down and built with an angle deck as part of her original design. I guess you get to ask the next question.
Very interesting; I would have gotten that one wrong. But it sounds to me like there’s a little room for argument over definitions here. As I’ve always understood it, the four *Forrestal-*class ships (Forrestal, Ranger, Saratoga, and Independence) were/are sisterships built to the same basic design. If in fact the plans of the Forrestal were altered to include the angled deck (which was news to me, I have to confess), and if we therefore assert that she wasn’t designed with an angled deck, and if the Ranger was built to the same design…doesn’t that mean that the Ranger also was originally designed without the angled deck?
This is the sort of thing that gets students and professors into hot arguments about exams. It looks to me like Billydelawder may deserve at least “partial credit,” in that the Kitty Hawk, as the first one designed after the Forrestal class, must have been the first one designed from the very beginning to have an angled deck.
Bottom line: thanks to subfixer for bringing our attention to some information that, to my mind at least, rises considerably above the level of trivia. It’s interesting to think about what the *Forrestal-*class ships would have looked like without the angled decks.
I remember vividly when the old Revell kit appeared, with its advertising proclaiming the ship as the ultimate high-tech “supercarrier.” As a matter of fact I can also remember the Aurora *Forrestal-*class kits that came out at about the same time - considerably cruder than the Revell version, but with lots more planes (which, to a ten-year-old, was what really mattered). Now all the ships in that class have been decommissioned and, as I just read on the Navsource site, the Kitty Hawk is officially designated the senior commissioned ship in the Navy - and she’s due for decommissioning shortly. I feel old…
I suppose that the designers finally realized that angle decks were here to stay and that they should just go ahead and include them as standard accessories and not just a dealer option like undercoating.
I’ll agree with you about feeling old, the Sh—y Kitty was fairly new when I was in the Navy (only about 11 years old) and now she’s going away. The Navy has retired newer carriers sooner, the America, Constellation and Kennedy. The Constitution is still in commision though, she’s kinda old, wouldn’t you say?
Interesting - and totally valid - point. The Navy is quite emphatic about it: the Constitution is in commission.
The Navsource site, which I just checked again, describes the Kitty Hawk as being entitled to fly the “first navy jack” (the one with the rattlesnake and “Dont Tread On Me”) because she’s the “oldest active commissioned ship” in the Navy. I guess they don’t consider the Constitution “active.” (But aren’t there some active auxiliaries that are older than the Kitty Hawk?)
Reference to that old navy jack brings up a profound thought that’s occurred to me more than once: if that flag had been designed by a modern USN bureaucrat, the rattlesnake would be saying “No Step.”
Thanhs subfixer.
My question is ,
Which U.S. Warship had a Captain who was buried three ( 3 ) times?.