http://www.jadar.com.pl/part/p35146/index.html
Can anyone recommend this item, or any other for that matter, for Tamiya’s Panzer IV J. Thanks
any aftermarket zimm recommendations?
For zimmerit I’d recommend Cavalier, Used many times real easy to use and turns out well.
If the turret on the IV has the schurzen on it, would the turret zimm be present?
Not the best picture, there’s probably some better.
Zim was put on at the factory so it only makes sense it would be there.
…yes and no…only the front portions of the turret that were not protected by the schurzen would be coated in zimm: front plate of turret, mantlet and recuperator housing (SP?)…sometimes the schurzen itself would be covered in zimm…I think the Germans felt as though the heavy use of schurzen already gave the Mk IV’s a good “stand-off” type of protection against magnetic mines…this explains the rather weak application of zimm on these vehicles…
…Mk IV’s were odd when it came to zimm, as they had very thin coats as compared to other German tanks; this is why they lend themselves better to the “hot iron” method of applying it…they did have zimm on the chassis in the normal areas…
I believe that the Cavalier set comes w/complete turret coverage.
…my refs show different…I’m sure it happened, but I would say that it is the rare exception…
Wjere do O look for cavelier zimm? I would like to add zimm to that new 1:48 scale Tiger from tamiya I just got, but I don’t want to risk such a pretty kit by trying to do it myself.
The reason I ask is that I am planning on dressing up Tamiya’s 35181 IV - J. I’d like to get Zimm, PE, Schurzen and an Aluminum barrel for it, maybe some AM track if budget allows. If anyone has recommendations for a shopping list I’d love to hear from you.
Just started my search as well. Not sure if this is the best price or not, just some initial research.
wow…just so happens I am doing the same thing with my J:
I suggest the Modelkasten late model 40 cm tracks with solid horns
The Aber barrel: #35L-46:–it is a work of art
The Aber Schurzen (I only got the turret set, as I want to show mine w/o side skirts but with empty brackets): 35A06
Cavalier zimm set #0111 for Tamiya J
Thanks so much for the shopping list! I’m going to look all this up this evening.
…you are partially correct…the cav set comes with pieces to cover the turret schurzen, but does not come with anything to cover the turret sides themselves…it also comes with some replacement pieces to model the mantlet, recuperator housing, etc. in zimm…
…as I wrote earlier, all my refs show no zimm on Mk IV turrets except for the front area, as stated above; however, some refs show limited application on schurzen, both turret and side-skirt (this may have been field applied)…
…as we both have the same project going on, let me know if I can be of any more help…
Are the Modelkasten tracks PN: SK24? Wouldn’t 35L47 be more accurate for this kit?
SK-017: Description: Panzer III/IV late model. Solid horned, 40cm late model track seen on Panzer N/M, Panzer IV H and J and late model Sturm-geschutze G assault guns and late style Panzer IV flak platforms such as the Whirbelwind, Kugelblitz and the Mobelwagen. Suitable for these types of kits from Tamiya, Gunze Sangyo, DML and Italeri. Also includes articulated idler wheel assembly for the Tamiya Panzer IV J kit that allows adjustment of track tension after installation.
Cool thanks.
I thought that the barrel would be the 35L47.
What’s the deal between solid vs hollow guide horns? In other words… did the solids only appear after a certain variation, did it have to do with conservation, strength? I get confused when people here discuss drilling out the solids to make hollows, as if solids were not an option.
Stupid question. But I so confuse [%-)]
The barrel I have is specifically for G and H models so you may be correct. The part number you have is probably specific for a J model…minor differences with the muzzle brake, I suspect…
The Germans used two types of track width sizes for their Mk III and IV series: 36cm and then 40cm (around '40-'41 period the switch was made)…the horns in the middle varied throughout the war and started as open, then solid, then to a groove pattern…I am not sure why the changes on the horns, but the last version (grooved) was also called: “lightening” type, so I suspect it was to reduce the weight of the track; however, I am sure they were always looking for ways to reduce the ammount of steel required in everything as materials became scarcer…Now, the Panther tracks were always of the open horn variety and the Tiger the solid type…as far as the other types of German AFV’s, well…ask about a specific type…