Does anyone out there have any photos, links, or ideas where to find reference to a specific FW-190?
I’m looking for a photo or color drawing of FW-190A-4 Yellow 3 of 3rd Staffel, JG26 flown by Gunther Rau, werk no 668.
Any help would be greatly appreciated!
Frank
Daywalker double check you info. I have a complete list of luftwaffe pilots with 5 or more kills and I don’t see a gunther rau among them. Are you sure you don’t mean gunther RALL third higest scoring ace of the luftwaffe? He would have flown with JG"S 52, 11, 300.
I also have nothing on a fw190A-4 with a work number 668? That number seems incomplete. My 190 Wk Nr list is not complete. Typically fw WK Nr were longer then 3 digits (not all the time). When they were short they usually included letters in them.
Phoenix-
I thought the werk no. seemed odd too, maybe it is just the last three digits of the actual werk no. As for the pilot, the officer listed was Gunther Rau of III./JG26. Thanks for looking!
Daywalker I have good news and bad news. I found your A-4. The complete work number is 140668, lost oct 2, 1942 shot down by a spitfire. gunther rau bailed out injured. This aircraft was recovered in the 90’s by john houston. The bad news is the luftwaffe research archive has no photos at this time. I have a call into someone who may help, If I find a pic in a resonable amount of time I’ll post it. With the complete Wk Nr try to surch the net for a pic.
Stan
Stan-
Wow! That was quick. Just getting the full werk number, along with what I did know about the plane, makes it easier to get a mental picture of what it might have looked like. Thanks again for helping out, much appreciated!
Frank
He had no specific pic of that fw, but here are some pics of fw190A-4/5 Jg26 were using during that same time frame and place.
this is of brown 4 and 5 7/jg26
Not color and not great pics but it does give you some idea of how the camo was typically applied on those aircraft.
Phoenix-
Cool! Thanks for those pics and your help. Now I have a fighting chance to finish it somewhat close!
One other question:
I can’t quite tell from the photo, but is there a border around the numbers? I’ve seen both with and without black borders on the numbers.
looking at those pics no. lighter numbers like yellow and white would have had a black border, where as darker colors number like black and blue would have a white border. Red number could go either way. against that lighter camo color I think a border would be easily seen. Most pics I see of 190’s with Jg26 sport the common camo of 74/75/76. The other I see but is very uncommon is the “storm gray” camo of 66/75/76
Forgive me but I forgot I had this as it’s an old build. this is 1/72 fw190A-8 “red 13” flown by Heinz Bar when he flew with JG26 in april 1944. It’s shows a very clean storm gray camo with fuselage speckels (lightly molted) and ID numbers with a border. The reich defence stripe is incorrect for JG26 on this model (belongs to JG1 or 300).The other is a D version at the airforce museum in the same camo. Colors may not be correct for your aircraft, but the molt parrtern may give you some ideas. So I guess my answer is I have do idea my friend. Without a good pic I guess it’s up to you.
I’m not trying to confuse you daywalker, but when it comes to luftwaffe camo and marking alot of the time it is a guessing game. I have seen aircraft of the same unit at the same time, but painted very differently. Late war aircraft are very bad for this.
Thanks again for the advice. I plan to use my creative license for the camo, just wanted to try to get the actual markings close to the rael thing. Great job on the FW BTW!
I think that brown numbers would have a white outline.But ya,the color combo with camo patterns are impossible to standardize.I’ve learned through my own research that you can’t really be called wrong with German camo,especially near the end.
That’s one of the reasons I love doing German A/C, artistic license! [:D]
You have fair amount of well documented luftwaffe aircraft, but most of the time it comes down to an educated guess. That’s way you can see 2 or 3 of the same german birds built, but they all look different. I’m sure yours it will come out looking great. That’s why I build alot of them, Who’s to say my version is more or less accurate and another in most cases.
Speaking of brown numbers.
FW190D-9 widetail “brown 4” boardless number, also from JG26. In late war moltless subassembly scheme with the correct reich defence bands. Daywalker this aircraft is from the same unit and displays the brown numbers we were discussing eariler, but has no bearing on your A-4 as far a reference goes. you may already know this but I thought I’d better throw it out there just in case. It’s just an interesting looking aircraft and shows the diversity of late war luftwaffe fighters from the same unit, different time.
Phoenix-
Wow, that Brown 4 you did is gorgeous!