Panzer III and Its Variants GB

Andy,

I’ll do the Pz. III Ausf.J Smart Kit with the long L/60 cannon. This is the 1/35 scale kit number 6394 2 in 1 kit seen here:

http://www.cybermodeler.com/hobby/kits/dml/kit_dml_6394.shtml

Nate

Hey Andy, I wanted to build the “Stug Ausf G” but it looks like a lot of people are going to do that one so if you like I also have a “Stug Ausf C/D”. I could do that instead in order to get more variants marked off. What do you think?

Nate- That’s great! Another variant marked off… I got you down for Pz III Ausf J from CB. I am looking forward to follow your build very closely like Marder Madness.

Rob- You read my mind?!?!? I was going to PM you asking if you can build something other than StuG III Ausf G. Yes, it would be great if you can do either C or D! Just let me know which one you want to build.

It is looking real good… more than five gaps were closed today alone. More to come I hope!

MAJmike- I know the feeling… you are not alone. [:P] Couple of buddies PM’ed me if we can start now instead of July 1st. LOL Many of us have ongoing GBs that we need to finish by June 30th so timing is perfect.

Anthony- That’s great! Another gap closed… got you for Pz III Ausf G. Thanks for being flexible! [Y]

Dupes- I admit I never heard about this until you mentioned StuG III G 10.5cm. [:$] See I am always learning something here. I wonder why it isn’t part of list I got from Wikipedia and armor related sites. I don’t see anything wrong to add this since it was built on a Pz III chasis. Thanks for bringing this up!

Guys, the building roster has been updated. It is really looking good with only three gaps left for Pz III and few more for its variants.

Off to work on my Chaffee now… [:P]

Def, If this GB lasts a year I can do the K also. I’ve got that in the stash.

Satch

Satch ip- That would be GREAT if you can do K. A year is plenty of time for most of us. I am very slow builder… I built only 4 kits last year and I hope I can build five kits this year. So I am determined to build two kits for this GB.

Guys- Rob brought this to my attention that StuG III C and D are identically the same except for an onboard intercom. So I think it would make sense to combine those two into one if you are OK with that?

Guys- List has been updated… believe it or not there is only two gaps left for Panzer III! I expected its variants to be more challenging because there may not be available kits for those… there are 8 available gaps. I am hoping one or two gaps to be closed by our friend Dupes… [:D]

Chazzer, hun Hunter, filthpig- If you haven’t brought a kit for this GB… it would be great if you can go for either Panzer III Ausf J’ and Ausf M. I checked there are kits available for Ausf M… I am not sure about Ausf J’. That Ausf is equipped with more powerful gun 5cm Kwk 39.

If I may mention tht since there are so many interested particpants and many have the same panzer III’s in the stash that panzer III’s and there variants that i should be accepted that there be sy moe than one stug III G as they were used in many theatres of the war ,from th eastern,and westrn fronts,to Italy.Thus three members could build the stug III G.That way we can open this up a bit more. Just a suggestion.

Well I must finsh prpping myself for the day. Have a good day Andy,and allthe rest of you styrne junkies.

Greg"Detailfreak"Rowley[Y]

Andy - a few notes here for you:

  1. You have both the Pz.III Ausf. K and Panzerbefehlswagen III listed as separate entities - I don’t believe that’s the case. The Pzbflswg.III IS the K variant.

  2. If you list the “Sturmgeschutz III Ausf G 10.5cm” as the “SturmHaubitze III Ausf G” there won’t be any confusion vs the ‘regular’ G’s.

  3. What exactly are you calling J vs J1 in the III list? Are you just going with Long vs Short barrels as the distinction?

Heh…I’ve actually got more Pz.III - based stuff in the closet…was only listing the ones that hadn’t already been taken. Between the IIIs and IVs, I kinda went nuts collecting all of the different variants so that hopefully one day I could have them all on the shelf!

Ideally I can build both a straight III and a StuG platform - why don’t you put me down for the artillery spotter Pz.Beobwg.III Ausf H (DML kit 9030) and Wittman’s StuG III Ausf A (DML kit 9031).

I shouldn’t think you’d have any problem finding someone to do the StuGs in B, E, or F - should be readily available. Minenraumer I’m not so sure about. The Su-76i needs a conversion kit, unless someone comes out with a fresh boxing in the next year (highly possible!).


detailfreak- Hey friend, I like your idea… if we are seeing more than one build for same variant, then going for different war theaters sound good. Again, it is their build and they might already have plan in their mind but we can always encourage. We can promise them you will be sending them cases of [B] if they follow your idea. [:D]

Dupes- Thank you so much doing this. Like I said I am not an expert and I learn something every day here in the forums. OK I will make changes to the list and combine Pz III Ausf K and Panzerbefehlswagen. Rob (panzerwaffe) and I talked about this StuH Ausf G or StuG Ausf G 10.5 which is really the same thing. We can use both terms if it helps?

You are just like me and every modeler… we share same dream building every variant for StuG, Panzer III and Panzer IV. Boy, hope we live long enough to finish them all. [:S]

I got you down for StuG III Ausf A and Beobwg… looking forward to have you aboard. [Y]

Dupes- Hi again! Sorry I missed your third question. [:$] I am not sure why the Pz III list came with Pz J and Pz J(1) separartely. I looked further into this and the only differnce is the gun as it was upgraded. I googled and found no results for kit of Ausf J(1) BUT found it showed for early Ausf J. mid Ausf J and late Ausf J kits. I am not sure what this is about… could be that late Ausf J kit is actually Ausf J(1)?

This has to be Ausf J…

Then it was upgraded to bigger & longer gun like this…

I’d love to hear your suggestion… thanks again!

I think if you go with “J Initial” (meaning the short barreled-gun) and “J” (meaning the regular long gun for the J variant) everything should be fine. If nobody picks up the J initial, I’ve got one kicking around I could always throw together (hah…of COURSE I do!).

Got my Vorp today…looks like a fantastic build. Can’t wait to get this one underway!

Look what the “Brown Truck of Happiness” brought today!

!(http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i337/angusmike/Panzer III WIP/PanzerIII1.jpg)

Need to get to the LHS to get the appropriate Model Master paint. I confess that I opened the boxes and checked the parts. Promise i won’t start until 1 July. [:D]

Andy-has anyone signed up for a 15cm Sturm-Infanteriegeschutz yet? If not, I’ll commit to one.

If someone has, then I’ll rethink my position…

Thanks

Grats, Mike! Think I might have to order that stowage set as well…looks pretty slick!

White truck of happiness brought me this little present today:

Heh! My wife (SWMBO) says that I should be on a first name basis with the UPS and FEDEX folks. Kinda harsh, but i hate shopping.

Your Vorpanzer will be a jewel. Help keep Austin weird (doesn’t take much). [whstl]

Dupes- I am with you. I will adjust to have them listed as Ausf J Initial and Ausf J. If you are really going to build three kits then I will do the same. [:D] One year is plenty…

DoogsATX- Boy, it looks good… don’t hesitate to take pictures of the sprues inside the box! It is not considering building so you are welcome to post. Wondering if you are planning to paint your Ausf L like the artwork on the box.

MAJ Mike- That stowage set looks way too good. Bet the stowage and barrel sets combined costs more than the Tamiya kit itself. LOL

Bobbaily- So far ogrejohn has signed up as his second build only if time permits. So either you want to help him out or reconsider your options. If you are into StuGs like some of us, Ausf B, E and F are still untaken.

Shhh! Don’t tell SWMBO. I thought that was SOP in model building to spend more on the AM stuff than on the kit. [whstl]