Panzer Aces GB January 2007 to May 31, 2008

Oooh…Premium Edition! I don’t have that kit! Verry niiiice!

ya its been on the shelf for about 2 months so Ill deff take it home… and my 40% off discount make it even nicer :slight_smile:

espins1,

Please add Tigers at the Front by Thomas L. Jentz; Schiffer Publishing; ISBN 0-7643-0914-5 to the Tiger I and Tiger II book sections. This book contains “in action” photos of Tigers on all fronts and has quite a few of the early Porsche Turret Tiger II. There are also field maintenance photos - turret removed, rear deck removed, etc.

-thePostman

That one is awesome!

http://www.tiger-tank.com/secure/journal.htm

It’s the restauration of the Bovington Tiger [8D]

Ya, I’ve always had a soft spot for the JagdTiger (and the Elefant for that matter). I was so stoked to actually be able to go up and not only get my picture taken between the JagdTiger and JagdPanther, but to actually touch it. The JagdTiger is monstrous! [:O] And had to be very intimidating!

Done… hmmm, that book sounds good, I think I’m going to have to pick that up! [8D]

Cool, added that to the Tiger I online references. [8D]

Thanks for all your input guys, this is great! [:D]

According to one review, these are the markings in the kit, now who they’d belong to I’m not sure, perhaps Hermisminiatures will know. [:)]

There are 7 options provided for in the kit, only one of which is plain dark yellow, all the others being in 3-tone schemes, apart from on in 2-tone. None displaying Zimmerit. These are:

  • 4./Pz.Abt.51, Kursk 1943

  • 7./Pz.Abt.52, Pz.Rgt.39, Kursk 1943

  • 4./Pz.Rgt. “Grossdeutschland”. Karachev 1843

  • Pz.Abt.52, Pz.Rgt.39, Germany 1943

  • Pz.Rgt. “Grossdeutschland”, Karachev 1943

  • Pz.Rgt.39, Kursk 1943

  • 1./Pz.Rgt.24, France 1944

Here is the review I was looking at:

http://www.armorama.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=Reviews&file=index&req=showcontent&id=1807

Checking the first page of this thread it seems someone already has chosen the Panther D

Lethal19 - Panther Ausf. D #424 St. Lo - Barkmann

Sooo my question is… Is it not ok to have 2 guys building the same tank. AND/OR Is it ok to build a different model but same Ace…

Here is some info in this link… My kit has decals for “kursk” which seems to be possible.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ernst_Barkmann

I think its OK to build the same tank if different Panzer Aces used it. As long as we don’t have, I.E. 2 persons building the Withman Tiger, should be alright. Also OK to build another tank that an Ace had, even if somebody is building a earliest one.

Exactly, totally ok to build the same tank, just if possible, different panzer ace [8D]

Alrighty then I need soem help finding a Ace who used the the tank I have chosen. The links I have mention a Ace who has already been chosen.

Here is a little blurb I found at http://www.achtungpanzer.com/pz4.htm

"On September 13th of 1943, seven Panthers from 1st Battalion of 2nd SS Panzer Regiment of 2nd SS Panzer Division “Das Reich”, commanded by SS Hauptsturmfuehrer Holzer (turret number 101) fought with a group of some 70 Soviet T-34 tanks near Kolomak. During the 20 minutes long engagement Panthers destroyed some 28 T-34 tanks without any losses.

During the battle around Siedlce on 28/29th July of 1944, 2nd Battalion of 5th SS Panzer Regiment of 5th SS Panzer Division “Wiking”, destroyed some 107 Soviet tanks (including T-34s, Shermans and Valentines), while losing 6 tanks (one PzKpfw IV and five Panthers). "

I’d be willing to bet we could find some from these engagements. I’ll see what I can dig up. Hermisminiatures: Any ideas? [:)]

Actually, I goofed - while making that list I momentarily forgot that the Panther production models progressed as D, A, G, not A, D, G like most other German vehicles. And while there were still a few Panther D models in Nomandy, these were only as regimental radio vehicles. Ernst Barkmann’s Panther was a late A as someone already said. So you will be building somebody’s Kursk Panther if you’re using the D kit. (an interesting note - Many Panther D’s had all sorts of improvised filters welded over the rear deck engine intakes because the engine was so poor, even the smallest bit of dirt would stall it. There was a story about Barkmann’s platoon driving through a pine forest amidst a shower of pine needles shaken off by the vibration of twelve tank engines. One by one, the Panthers sputtered and quit, not able to handle a few pine needles. Angrily, Barkmann and his men cleaned out the engines and welded their water buckets onto the intakes, after punching a few small holes in them.[xx(] Contrary to popular belief, the intake screens are not intended as air filters, but as anti-grenade screens, to prevent infantry from throwing hand grenades down the intakes. Panther models A and G were equipped with internal air filters.)

Oddly enough, no one really knows why the Panther progression went from D to A to G. Those crazy Germans… heh heh [;)]

I found a great list of Knights Cross holders if anyone is interested: http://www.axishistory.com/index.php?id=1727

Been doing some digging, the first Panther Ace that came to mind was Fritz Langanke, he commanded a Panther tank in the 2nd Company , 2nd SS Panzer Regiment “Das Reich”.

Here is an interesting story of some of his fighting in Normandy:

http://www.dasreich.ca/fritz_anec2.html

He is definately one worth looking into. I’ve seen him give interviews for various programs on the History and Military Channels and I have a lot of respect for this man. Here is one of his many exploits during the Normandy battles:

“Fritz Langanke’s first clash with American armor was on July 9, 1944, south of Sainteny France, in which he destroyed 9 Sherman tanks in less than 15 minutes with his Panther tank.”

You can read more about his exploits here: http://www.angelfire.com/goth/bobtank/langanke.html

I am building Barkmann’s late A that he was in at St.Lo so if you want to build his D that he was in at kursk i would say go ahead. And if you want decals try Echelon Decals they make a Panther sheet that has Barkmanns Kursk #s on it

You could do either Barkmann or Holzer, take your pick.

also add this to the reference section:

http://www.dasreich.ca/

sweet thx for all the info guys. This is good news. I will try to get started today. Its my only day off from work this week.

Hey, espins1 and everyone. I’ve never built an armor model before, but have wanted to for a while. I have a Tamiya 1/35 Panzer IV Ausf.D that I wanted to do as my first armor build. I haven’t had the time to read through the whole thread to see if anyone knew of an Panzer ace in an Panzer IV Ausf.D, but I wouldn’t mind joining the build if there was one and I could find some photos and decals for it.

Dave