As prelim research for a possible project, does anyone know what common paint schemes there are for He 177s that operated on the Russian Front? I’ve got my eye on the Revell Germany kit, and (knowing me) I’ve got some ideas for it. [;)][;)]
(Here’s a sneak peek of what I got in mind:)
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What kinda thing is that? Never seen it before…
But it seems to have a big canon! Just like those Ju-88 P-4’s.
You could paint it in normal colour and then oversray it with matt white, so you still see the original camo, just like other Luftwaffe planes on the Eastren Front in WW2.
Cheers,
Jürgen
That, my friend, 'tis an He 177 A-3/R-5. A total of five aircraft were converted with the 75mm cannon with the intent of being a tank-buster. It reaked havoc on the flying characteristics, though, and about blew the frame apart every time it was fired. Because of this, it was discontinued after, well, five aircraft.
You always dig up the wierest things Mike. I love it! [tup]
From what I’ve read about those things, the most accuate way to build it might be with it on fire.
Mike, try this link:
I think I’ve sent it to you before.
If not, use the English navigation, and look under aircraft, it’s all divided by manufacturer and type. There’s a colour plate of a 75 armed 177.
There are also several shots of 75 armed Ju88s and Hs129s under the armaments section.
Best of luck, the Revell He177 is a stunning kit.
Karl
Hm… I’m just seeing 70/71 over 65. Pretty boring. I have some more pics coming, so we’ll have to see.
Thanks for the link, I’m suprised I didn’t think of it. The gondola’s a different shape, though. I’ll probably stick with the pic I found. Less work.
The He-177 did have a lot of in-flight fires!Probably due to the fact that the 4 engines were crammed side-by side in two engine nacelles running the propeller through a gear box.ERnst Heinkel solved this problem by having four seperate engines and called it the HE-277,but Goering was so disgusted by the HE-177’s problems that he forbade further development and shut the whole project down!
Allied bombing that pretty much destroyed the He-274 (related development) airframe didn’t help, either.
Well I recommend you to buy this kit, It is relly good, I have two of them, and I’ll paint the two color schemes, decals are provided for two versions: rom 4./KG 100 Chatedeaun 1944, color scheme is RLM 65 in the undersides and RLM 02 with RLM73 squiggle in the uppersides, and the other is from 2./KG 40 Bordeaux-Merignac, end 1944, and the color scheme is all over RLM 76 with RLM 75 blotches in the upper surfaces… I know that this two versions are from French front, but the color scheme may be simmilar, I’m talking about the 2./KG 40 aircraft, or maybe the color scheme: RLM 22 in the undersides and RLM 76 with RLM 75 mottles in the upper sides… or the very common RLM 70/RLM 71/ RLM 65, if is an He-177A-3… well… I’ve seen this four color schemes in the He-177, maybe there are more…
Hey, recently I’ve found a pic:
The top aircraft, according with my plans, must be an He-177A-1/U-2, but I think that the plane in your post is an He-177A-3/R-5… Mmmm it seems like the camo is RLM 65/ RLM 70/ RLM 71…
Thanks. I recognize it from luftarchiv.de. I believe that’s one fitted with a 50mm instead of a 75mm, but I may keep the paint scheme. It’s either that, or that oversprayed with white to simulate winter camo. We’ll see.
Did I hear correctly that Trumpeter is planning to produce a 1/48 scale kit of the He-177?If so,I think I would buy one if the reviewers said it was up to snuff!
Philo The Grief isn’t exactly small in 1/72, it’s going to be little short of huge in 1/48!!!
Mike There’s a book in the Warpaint series dedicated to the He177 might be worth a look. I bought the one for the Do217K and it’s full of photos I’ve never seen before.
My He177 ended up a test hack, shouldn’t have attempted one as my second kit after returning to modelling!!! Having said that, I quite fancy the black and grey camo’d bird second down. Maybe one day.
Karl
Lucien, did you get the images that I emailed to you ?
That I did, dogbody. Thanks a lot for those. I still have yet to really download them yet, becuause I run off a dial-up connection, and it’s REEEEAAALYY slow. From what I’ve seen though, they’re pretty much what I needed. Thanks.
KJ200- I think there’s already a 1/48 He 177 kit out. It’s multimedia, but I forget who makes it. I found one review of it on the internet (wearing the same scheme as the one you’re looking at), but I forgot where that is, too.
Why can’t I find the Revell He 177 anywhere? Is it 1/72nd?
Shut up Michael. It’s readily available, you just need to open your eyes. I like it… Now I want one, and it’s YOUR fault [:p]
Next question being: Is it a newish Revell mold, or is it one of their old travesties! I’ve got the Ju-52, which is wonderful[:D], and the A-10 which is equally terrible! [xx(]
Ohhh, no, it definitely a new mold. (My name is Michael, too, so your comment was slightly strange…) From all the reviews I’ve read I hear it’s a stellar kit, and the price ($20.00, average) it’s really a sweet deal. I’ve wanted this kit for a while, and I’m finally getting it. I highly recommend it.
Mikeiw It’s a really great kit, with loads of detail both inside and out.
And if there’s not enough for you CMK do resin update sets for the wheel bays, bomb bays, and flaps, as well as a PE set from Eduard
You might want to try the following if you’re having trouble locating one:
The latter definitely has them as I was in there at lunch time, and saw several.
Mike I think I’ve seen the same review. interesting build. Think I’ll stick with the Revell offering myself.
Karl
However, Heinkel continued the work on them without his knowing it (he generally stayed out-of-touch), and worked out a lot of the “kinks” (as did Boeing with teh B-29, as it had engine fire problems also), and when the final versions were evaluated by the British, they basically said “Thank Georing these never went into full-scale production”!
Among other things, the He-177 was developed with the payload capacity to deliver the atomic bomb then under development under the Third Reich.
These captured examples continued to serve in both France and England after the war in various capacities, including test-beds.
Tom [C):-)]
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