i believe they were the T54 type. i’ll get a closer shot of the tread for further advice. yeah i know its over rusted, that’s because this was the first time i used artists oils, and i didn’t know that it was that strong of stuff. the redish on the upper hull and turret is actually my airbrushing redbrown to try and simulate dried mud dust built up and to cover up some of the rust. i’ll have to go over it again with a little toned down OD, then i’ll powder it up with some MIG pigments i have on order.
ok guys, here’s the new and improved edition of my shermie. i am still working on the tracks, and the glue is still wet on the mud, but how are we looking now? i tried to fix the over-rust problem, and i added some nice mud. i have MIG powders on the way in the mail, so i’ll be able to touch up the mud, hull, and turret once they get here. i’ll also add the fuel stains and the rust again, only this time, not so much [;)]
roosterpelo,
Looking real good. Maybe some streaking with various shades of green on the turret and glacis.
[tup] [tup]
Joe [:D] [:D]
what do you mean by streaking?
Hey, nice Sherm.
I am also building one, it is on the dioramas forum for now but I might repost it. I used a Celluclay type stuff for mud and painted it with acrylics. I also mixed some paint in the mix. One thing You’ll want to do is make sure the drive sprockets are clean so the track will still fit on it. Just a small amount between the teeth can cause a problem, and in that picture it looks like there’s some in there. If it is, I hope I wrote before it dried, but even if it’s dry it should clean out pretty easily anyways.
Have fun!
------------------------Kevin
roosterpelo,
Just take some various shades of green pastels, (close to o.d., mix to get a close match, if necessary) a small brush and apply to the turret sides and glacis. You want a brush that would be no larger than 1/16th of an inch. It will give some very subtle variation to the color. If you don’t like the results, wipe clean and start over.
Joe [:D] [:D]
Hey,
Gotta love the Shermans! Here is my Shermie using winter camo, but it shows what you can do with the MIG Powders and artists oils for weathering. Keep up the good work!
Nice Jumbo!
Here are some color film stills – give you a visual on how dusty the suspensions get
http://www.network54.com/Forum/47208/message/1172605120/YouTube+Sherman+stills
ok guys, here is some updated pics of the sherman i have been having trouble with. i am still working on the tracks, and the tools still need to be painted, plus minor weathering with some MIG powder. still debating if i want a dried mud effect or wet. any ideas and help guys? friendly critism needed.
rooster
ok i got the tracks and pioneer tools painted, i think that i have come a long way from the first try. any feedback from the pros? hints suggestions and ideas? any would be great guys.
roosterpelo,
Not a pro, by any stretch, but I think you need to redo your dust a bit. You have dust on the front sides of the turret where, in my opinion, it would not collect as easily. Dust would first accumulate around the low areas, such as the commanders hatch base. This would best be replicated by using pastel chalks, ground up and applied with a brush.
I must admit my eyes aren’t the best and the pictures are too dark for me to really see much detail.
Do a search on Shermans and look at how the real tanks collected dust.
Joe [:D] [:D]
Also, avoid using cool (red or blue toned) colors at all when weathering, unless you are specifically modeling a vehicle that served in Vietnam, where reddish soil is common. “Cool” colors, when used for dust and dirt, look very unrealistic, because real dirt will be a “warm” or yellow-toned color. It looks as if your dust may be a bit too reddish; something more yellowish might look better. Of course this doesn’t mean bright yellow or even visibly yellow, but definitely not red.
I think you’re doing a pretty good job so far!
yeah i see what you guys were talking about the “cool” red dirt/dust. looks like it just rolled out of vietnam. i will have to work on the color a little bit better. and i’ll have to search pics like you said. i tried to get it a very light overspray, but i guess it came on a little thick. i have MIG powders allied OD to “tone” down the dust on the turret, but it seems like everytime i use the stuff, it looks like i brushed it on, rather than a realistic “dusting” or weathering. should i be using a stiff or soft brush? long bristle or short? and about the drybrushing, i should be drybrushing with a lighter tone of the base OD right?
It can be hard to apply MIG powders without them streaking, but I think the best way is to use a fairly stiff, short brush, and “grind” the powder on with up-and-down, dabbing strokes. You can also apply a lot and blow the excess off, but that’s pretty wasteful.
so do you think some allied OD (fading) would cover up some of that redish dust on the turret and the like? apply some over the current “dust”, and maybe around the edges of the turret? i also have light dust MIG powders, i could apply that lightly over the redish mud on the sides and hull. thoughts?
I would airbrush rubbing alcohol or nail polish remover over your dusty areas, and then apply MIG light dust while it’s still wet. As far as the area on the turret, repainting it would probably work best.
damn [banghead] looks like i’m back to just windex-ing it and starting all over again. i must have painted this tank about five times. i can never get anything realistic. about airbrushing alcohol then MIG powders, wouldn’t that leave a distingushing line between wet and dry powder? and if the powders get wet, isn’t it just regular paint again? ok, since i am an old dumb infantry grunt, let me go over what i am planning on doing, then see if its what you would do, or approve of:
base coat of either dark OD, or black, to bring out panel lines and such.
progressively lighter shades of OD until i get the faded look, then end up basically doing a cloud spray with the lighest coat.
drybrush with a ligher OD since steel didn’t show in allied armor.
paint stowage and tools wood and gray with drybrushing of black and metallic gray on metal, and black on the wood areas, to look grimy and dirty.
paint the mud on the hull more earth tone, to include the dried dirt dust on the sides.
ok. now this is where i get lost. i usually over do some part of what i just said, so i never got this far. where and how can i apply the MIGs without them seeming over done?
alright. i’ll keep that in mind. although i think i am stuck with the mud i already have on the lower hull. its white glue and dirt, with a little bit of coffee grind in there. so it’s not coming off anytime soon. but i’ll apply all the other things you told me to the rest of the vehicle. you have been a great help herme. i’ll be sure to send you some pics on my progress.