Hi Team, what is the most up to date Nashorn on the market? I know DML has put out a few of them. Thanks
The Hummel is indirect fire and the Nashorn is direct fire correct? What role did the Hornisse fill?
Hi Team, what is the most up to date Nashorn on the market? I know DML has put out a few of them. Thanks
The Hummel is indirect fire and the Nashorn is direct fire correct? What role did the Hornisse fill?
Nashorn/Hornisse are one in the same.
A rose by any other name is still a rose
Tony lee[:)]
Yes, Tony is correct. Better listen to him… he is our God of SPG.
For the most recent release, I would go for either:
http://www.dragonmodelsusa.com/dmlusa/prodd.asp?pid=CHC6646
OR
http://www.dragonmodelsusa.com/dmlusa/prodd.asp?pid=DRA6386
The Dragon even comes with aluminum barrel! I am not sure of Cyber-Hobby does…
Looks like a beauty of a kit.
The Smart Kits are normally not as abundant in extras as the premium kits. They are quicker builds, usually lesser amounts of PE but almost always high quality kits. You really can’t go wrong with either, unless you happen to stumble across one of their old kits thinking it’s one of the newer ones.
The Hornisse is usually considered an early Nashorn. Besides a name difference there are some other minor differences.
Erik
I believe the name was changed on orders by Hitler. He wanted something tougher.
I thought the Hummel was a 150mm sfh 15 howitzer and the nashorn was a 88mm pak 43
That’s right Terry. The Hornisse/Nashorn were built on the same chassis alongside the Hummel on the same assembly lines.
AFV Club also has a modern-tooling Nashorn out that you may want to look at as well for comparison sake. [B]
Can’t say with conviction, but I believe it comes with one-piece vinyls and not indies.
I built the “older” premium Nashorn several years ago. Mix bag of good and bad… You better have your big boy panties on to do it up right.
I have not build the newest Dragon or AFV Club kit but I hear from others that they build up nice. It is my understanding that the Dragon one was New Tooling all around which is good. The “premium” one I built was just an upgraded packaging of their old old old imperial kit.
It still turned out ok but took a lot of work.
With proper painting and weathering, most any model can look good whether old or new tooling.
You did this justice K-Dawg. Who would’ve guessed this was an older kit?
Here’s my WIP of the DML early Hornisse with Verlinden stuff thrown in. I think it came out pretty nicely. I only added in the Verlinden stuff for fun, mostly. It’s a pretty accurate kit as is.
The Doog’s Hornisse
I thought it was changed to align roles with type creatures; insects were self-propelled indirect fire artillery (Hummel-Bumblebee) and large mammals for self-ropelled direct fire anti-tank artillery (Elefant, Nashorn-Rhino). The Hornisse (hornet) was direct fire. They did the same with the Ferdinand and renamed it the Elefant.
Either way, guys, very nice builds. I’m impressed with the weathering.
Thanks everyone
Wespe/Wasp also would be indirect. I must admit that makes more sense. Now I’ll have to look into it.
You say tomatoe and I say tomatoe.Nuff said ? The newest Dragon kit is probably the best.Check Pvt. Mutt’s build,although not recently updated,shows options not ever seen.I.E. the additional gun shield armor.Not an expert myself but one of my favorite subjects.Dragon kit #6165 is a pretty one,the anniversary boxing comes with some brass and I believe is more accurate than most.I’ve built three and they are well detailed,pay close attention to the instructions.Look up Doogs Nashorn.Very informative.Build one and you are hooked.[;)]
Greg"Detailfreak"Rowley[Y]
Guys- I have learned something here… thanks!
I have this old DML kit Nashorn #6001. Is it the first or second kit released by DML? I know it is old… brought it for only $25 via evilBay BUT it came with three sets of PEs and LionRoar aluminum barrel!
Has anybody built Nashorn #6001?
Since their WW2 series numbering begins in the 6000 range, it would be the first kit excluding their older “Imperial” series which were reboxes of the Gunze Sangyo kits with plastic parts replacing the GS white metal pieces.
The Nashorn kit #6001 was not highly regarded and panned by pretty much everyone back in the 90s. Here is a corrections/tweaks post that will help should you decide to go ahead and build it. At $25, you did not spend the money wisely; kits #6165 and 6166 are marginally more (found one #6165 for even less on eBay right now) expensive and are much higher quality kits than the old #6001.
http://ampsnz.hobbyvista.com/reviews/Kits/kits1.35/WWII/Germany/SPG/Nashorn/nashorn.htm
As for pronouncing “tomato”, you’d have thought after the Dan Quayle spelling bee debacle in the 90s, that’d be one word most Americans could at least spell correctly regardless of pronunciation.
I built good ole 6001 way back when it came out. It was the first WWII 1/35 kit Dragon did, I think the Soviet T-70 was the first armor kit. Hey, it had faults, but it sure beat scratch building the thing on a Italeri kit. I did a few very small things to it, didn’t have a lot of references, a few Japanese photo books with good interior shots. I still have it, and even though I’ve built 3 of the newer issues, I still keep it out and in good shape. For 20 years old it still looks okay. Heck, it even placed in a local IPMS contest here way back when. I still have one kit not built just for the memories. I did sale off another one when then newer ones came out.
I love the Nashorn. I was first introduced to the beastie by the Avalon Hill game PanzerBlitz back in 1971. Used to play those games a lot. Anyway, the long range and attack factor of that unit was marvelous. Yeah it’s defense factor was bad and movement was average, but you had to be really not paying attention to lose it in battle. I suppose you could sacrifice it, but it would be like losing a queen in chess, as well as the Hummel and Wespe. So when after 20 years when Dragon did it, I snatched it up and started to build it. I haven’t gotten the AFV club kit yet, are there any advantages to it? I did notice it has vinyl track. I prefer Dragons magic track, but other than that any differences?
Doug