I’m looking for a kit of a 30’s to 40’s era purse seiner, ideally about 75 feet or so long. I’d like to build a model at a larger scale like 1/48; 1/4" = 1’-0".
I suppose I could start from drawings, but it would be nice to at least have a hull.
Something like this:
I looked at Dumas, Model Expo and a couple of others. No luck so far.
Any leads most welcome!
Hi Bill ;
She looks a lot like a LINDBERG " Shrimper" that’s been modified .
How long is the Lindy Shrimper?
Isn’t it around 14" or so?
That would be a trim 56’ at 1/48
Bill,
TankerBuilder has a good eye. The Shrimp boat does look quite a bit like your picture. The kits Bow is a bit “sharper” though. If the hull seems okay you might have something to work with. However, the Lindberg Shrimp boat measures 12.3". At the stated scale of 1/60 she is a 61’6" footer OA. But, since you want a larger scale of 1/48 to represent a 75’ 1930’s-40’s net fishing boat, (with a Crows nest?), I can’t think of any curent plastic Hulls of 18 ¾” length that look like your prototype. The Lindberg 1/60 Tuna Clipper is only 14” long.
TB, I believe you built the Revell Firefighter boat (prototype launched in1939?). Do you think that hull might work? This is one kit I never looked into but I recall reading that the hull was 19” long. If not too wide in the beam maybe it could work- If a kit can be found.
Jim
Ah;
Ya got me ! I thought everyone forgot about that one . She would work , But , I think she might be a little wide . I don’t have her near me but I think she is about a foot or so long with a four or five inch beam .
Also you’d have to add some heighth to her freeboard . She sits quite low . I have another that’s a work in progress , somewhere . Turning it into a salvage vessel in Clive Cussler’s " NUMA " Colors . Light Turquoise and White .
The Firefighter looks good. At 19" length, that about a perfect 1/4" = 1’-0" for a 76 footer.
Bill & Tanker-Builder,
I think the beam is okay. Basic lines of Hull looks close to that Seiner ( net hauling) Fishing boat although the sheer is wrong and new superstructure needed but maybe hull only needs things “removed”?
Here is a Pic of the Firefighter Boat. There are others but this one is from a .org site so I figured I could use it and give proper credit. The Internet has much better pictures if you search.
FDNY Fire Boat “Marine 9” - By Christophe Lorin
1/87ish kit. The prototype was built in 1938.
Nino
Later edit: Bill, I’ll keep an Eye-Out for a kit- hopefully below a Hundred & four bucks.
I think this kits rarer than a Nichimo Graf Spee. Maybe it’s letter-writting time to Revell.
Hull on E***:
Forgot to mention the Forest Gump Shrimp boat. It’s a wood kit. Looks poor ( read: “goofy”) to me. Maybe the hull could work though. I could not find a hull lenght listed.
Assuming that the Revell Fire Fighter is a scale model of the real thing, and I trust Revell usually, even thought they have a tendency to state an incorrect scale on the box; here’s a set of comparative measurements.
Fire Fighter:
Length OA - 134 feet.
Beam - 32 feet.
That backs into model dimensions as follows, at 1/87 scale.
Length OA - 18.5 inches.
Beam - 4.4 inches
Western Flyer:
Length OA - 76 feet.
Beam - 20 feet.
That backs into model dimensions as follows, at 1/48 scale.
Length OA - 19 inches.
Beam - 5 inches.
Not bad!
All of a sudden this project isn’t looking easy any more.
A waterline version would ease the project a lot. Building up the bulwark in the bow should not be terribly hard.
Bill;
That’s why I didn’t mention her to start with . She’s a little low in freeboard for that conversion . I think you’d be best contacting Blue-Jacket Shipcrafters . They might have one in their line . T.B.
I would like a full hull. I played around with the calculator a little. If I drop to 1/60 scale, and cut 3" out of the length, the draft looks a lot better. Adding a keel helps that too. Building up the bulwark mostly in the peak looks doable.
I have a kit on the way. When I get it I’ll mock it up and see.
Bill
Hi,
I realize that this is probably of no use to you what so ever, but while browsing the internet today although I didn’t find a tuna purse seiner, I did stumble across a “tuna purse”. [:P]
Well, at least the “Hull shape” has sheer albeit the wrong direction and it comes with Masking tape, Hull-red marker and some clips. Looks like therer’s an “Instruction booklet” too.
How much PFJN, if Ya don’t mind me asking…?
Nino
Hi,
I never even checked. Looking at it now though, it looks like its $59 [:O]
Hey Bill !
Have you even considered the Tuna Clipper ? It might work . T.B.
I did tanko, but it’s got a pretty rakish stem. I really think the Fire fighter is going to work at 1/60. Of course I’m gonna have a big pile of fire boat stuff in HO…
A “Hull” of a price…
Bill ;
I thought about something . Model car folks do this trick . You can cut the Fireboat from the stern . Open the hull to the stern shape you need .Then create plastic wedges to fill out the hull .What you are doing is just the reverse of what the model car builder does to create a lower profile for the Car , Trunk , Hood etc .
I do know this will work as I have done it with the Fireboat hull to create a smooth profile for a Naval Salvage ship for a client . It can be tricky , but that’s one way to go . T.B.
Bill;
Looking at this , what I suggested will work . Just cut the hull at the top of the skeg and go all the way to the bow . Then you have a top and bottom . Now create the wedge shapes to match your red drawing and glue all together . Add support strips to the inside and recreate the skeg and you’re good to go . T.B.