Just how basic are these kits?
I mean do they only have like 20 parts per kit?
Anyone got pics of the sprues for any of them?
Something like that. Very basic. No interior detail. Remember these model kits are from the '50’s 60’s and '70s.
You started a thread on the same subject a week ago and a lot of people took the time to respond. Why are you asking the same thing again?
If there is a specific kit you’re interested in then say so. It’s difficult to give a specific response to a general question.
Mark
They’re only about 12.00 bucks, pard… I don’t have any pics of the sprues, but I can take one or two of my Stearman if that’s what it’ll take to get you to commit, lol…
Thye’re BASIC kits, but they build out rather nice (as far as the JN4D, P-6E, and Stearman PT-17/N2S go, which are the ones I have)… But you’ll have to scratch the cockpits if you want a “modern” looking model when you’re done… Did you actualy READ any of the responses you got from your last thread on this subject, by the way?
Lemme help ya remember… Just click on this link:
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Nobody minds helping a guy out around here, that’s what the Fourms are for, and why we all love to help… But ya gotta help yourself too, Dale…
Kitech/zhengdefu model kits is even superior and cheaper than Lindberg model kits…
Sorry I had just forgotten all about the other thread.
I really do apreciate all the help and I dont mean to be a pain in the butt.
No sweat… It’s happened to all of us, I’m sure, forgetting about threads… You can stop that from happening by making sure the “Email me replies to this post” box is checked when you hit the “post” button… When you’re done with it, just click on the " Email Me when someone replies" button at the top of the page…
So… Ya gonna buy it or not?
Honestly… I really don’t care for Lindberg kits. I bought a couple. No detail to speak of, bad fits on a lot of the parts, very simplistic. They would be most suitable for a kid just getting into the hobby. The only kits I think would be simpler are the old AMT kits like their 1/48 Panther F9F. Unless you don’t want detail and a challenge, or don’t mind doing a ton of hand scribing and using lots of aftermarket parts, I would steer clear of them.
I’ve seen some doozies from Zheng-dog-poo.[sn0ps] I mean Zhengdefu
The Lindberg 1:48 scale F-86D Sabre is not a bad starter kit. It has a full cockpit- no scratching required, although the intstrument details are a little soft. It does not have any wheel wells even for the gear down position, but that wouldn’t be hard to open up and box in.
Forget what some guys say about them being “bad” kits… Some’re actually quite good for beginners and experienced modelers alike… Not EVERY kit from EVERY manufacturer is a good one, and some of the most expensive kits out there are pigs, considering what you paid for it s the flaws in it…
Beginners learn basic assembly and finishing skils on a kit that only costs about 12 bucks, and they won’t go ape-sh*t about if they screw it up, and experienced modelers will make contest winners out of them, much to the dismay of “Shake & Bakers” that rely on the manufacturer including all the detail parts they think MUST be included in a kit fot it to be a “good” one, or who buy every after-market part available for them… Some do both…
Here’s a sprue-shot for ya…
With a little scratchbuilding in the cockpit (adding a sheet styrene floor and instrument panels, stretched sprue sticks, and some masking tape seat harness), and some ignition wiring on the engine, this little PT-17 will build out to great model of the primary trainer that was the first mount of hundreds of thousands of US Army, Navy, and Marine fighter, bomber, and transport pilots in WW2…
Does it meet the “standards” of todays kits? No… That’s why it only costs 12.00…
Does it build into an accurate replica of an Army PT-17 or Navy N2S? Yes…
Thanks for the tip about the emailing of my posts.
Yea I am just a beginner and your spue shots are very much appreciated.
That is crap! Crappy than zhengdefu kit and cost twice of smiliar kitech catergories…
Of cos, kitech is nothing spectacular. I buy them to test painting skill and they are dirt cheap. A 1/72 jet cost USD 5 buck. I don’t even feel a single pain when I drop it. ( Lindberg kit don’t even fit to be bought as test paint target)
I suggest to TS to get the old Academy 1/72 series like super etenard, Mig-23/27 and the Mig-21… Their old 1/48 series are also very affordable like F-16A and Mig-29. Their quality are far superior than Lingberg and Kitech and price is affordable too. (Of cos, it’s quality can’t compare to Tamiya and Hasegawa)
Oh don’t take my calling Zhengdefu by Zheng-dog-poo personally, I have only had 2 kits and they were blobs. One was an Iowa class BB in the mid-‘80s fit, and while the superstructure reasonably represented an Iowa, the hull form was pure Yamato including a wide bow and Harpoon launchers larger than the Tomahawks[:’(]. The other was a 1/72 aircraft and the 2 crew figures looked like sand people from Star Wars lol.
Maybe I just got ahold of a couple that wasn’t their finest work. A friend of mine is sending me a couple of Zhengdefu kits as early Christmas presents, one is a 1/72 scale AH-64 Longbow Apache, and the other is a 1/48 scale M2 Bradley, so I’ll have another go at them[cwby]
I’ll tell ya what Lindberg IS good at and that’s thier line of 1/20 scale auto kits. I have the Nissan King cab pickup and the "95 GMC Jimmy and they are awesome in every detail.
I have that F86D Lindberg kit, I also made the mistake of ordering their cutlass. As for Hasegawa. I am not too happy with their kits lately. a close friend gave me one of their P51D 1/32 kits. I decided to do a comparison, so I started both the Hasegawa and the Dragon kit I have. I have been building them in paralell for w bit now, a little at a time. I have so far assembled the cockpit and engine sub assemblies, and comparing them is night and day. The Dragon kit is accurate, and has PE parts for the pilots harness and the control and instrument panel, as well as a glass underlay for it. It has a very detailed Merlin engine and it has the full mounting frame assembly in very good detail. The tank and hoses are a lot better on the dragon as well. The Hasegawa by comparison is very poor. The cockpit details are off a bit and the seat is out of proportion. The engine bay doesn’t even have the engine mount frame. The engine just glues into the fuselage halves. The radio boxes and avionics behind the pilots seat is primitive and lacks any real detail on the Hasegawa kit. The fit on the Hasegawa is also not as tight. I ended up using a lot of gap filler on it. I am going to be mounting the cockpit and engine assemblies into the fuselage soon, so I will let folks know how they turn out once completed. But so far, for a less expensive kit, the Dragon is about 3 light years out in front of the Hasegawa kit. I would tend to recommend the Dragon kits if I had to now. I suppose that other Hasegawa kits aren’t as bad, but this one is a really bad piece of work. For a newbie though, I wouldn’t recommend either. I’d probably say to start with something like the 1/32 Revell Corsair or one of the 1/48 Grumman aircraft like the F4F, F6F, F9F or the F7F Tigercat. Reasonably detailed, relatively very inexpensive, fairly simple construction and they all build up really nice.
You’re welcome, sir… I kinda figured that you were a beginner, so I aimed the post that way… Some guys are (what HKShooter came up with a name for) "Kit-pickers, and that’s all well and good for guys that have the skillsets for the more advanced kits, but for a new guy, it’s knda bad advice to go al-out and tell them to drop 25-50.00 bucks on their first few kits…
KISS-rules apply in beginner’s cases (Keep It Simple, Stupid [:D]) and, at least IMHO, they should restrict their kit-choices to the cheaper end of the scale until they’ve “grown” a bit more… Lindberg, Revell-Monogram (which are my favorites, as you can see in my signature), Fujimi, AMT,and Arii, are all fine kit-manufacturers, and put out kits that are quite good for their age, some better than others, but all are in the 12-25.00-range for their single-engine, single-seat fighters( try theTestor’s/HAWK P-47 Razorback/Bubble-top which gives your choice of which version to build), and a few twin-engined fighters (Monogram P-38, , AMT F7F Tigercats, Monogram P-61, etc) are in there too…
Granted, there’s always a few pigs in the pen, but EVERY manufacturer has those, and shelling out 70.00 for a kit that’s screewed up and/or over-engineered just compounds the problems for a beginner… Sure, the included P/E (Photo-etched metal) and resin parts are welcome, but making your own detail parts will go a long way towards building you modeling skills, and when there’re no afer-markewt partsfor the kit you want to build, you’ll be able to go through your junk boxes or spare-parts bins and come up with something tha will work, or fabricate the parts yourself… Buying a bunch of stuffdoesn’t really increase your skills, it just adds to the parts-count and decreases the thickness of your wallet, IMHO…[whstl]…
So go ahead and buy those Lindberg kits, and have fun with them, especially th ones that are the only game in town for certain 1/48th aircraft types… So what if you screw it up? You’re only out 12.00 and now you have additions to the parts bin(s)… It’s all good…[t$t]
Like Fermis, I’ve won a few contests with my “junk models” from the “bad” manufacturers, and that feels pretty good (especially when I beat out the guy with the 70,00 kit and 40…00-worth of P/E and resin parts added,whereas I’ve invested about a buck in materials to detail it)…
Maybe Fermis will read this and post HIS “lousy kit” Stearman… I know that this thread has inspired me to tackle the PT-17 now… I had a couple Monogram and Testor’s (Ex-HAWK kits)