John McCain's A-4

Hi guys!

I stopped off at my local HobbyTown to treat myself to a 40th birthday present. (siiiiiiigh) Anyway, as someone who builds 99.9% WW2 models, I decided to take a break from the ordinary and get myself a jet.

Monogram has re-released their A-4 Skyhawk which can be built as either a Blue Angels plane or as John McCain’s A-4. According to the instructions, his was an A-4E. In the kit itself are the parts needed to add the avionics hump. Since I am not well versed in the little nuances and variants of Viet Nam era jets, can anybody tell me what would be the correct thing to do for John McCain’s jet? Would it be with or without the camel hump?

Thanks!

Eric

Without the hump.

I concur. A-4Es were first built without the hump and started adding it about mid 1968. McCain was shot down in April 1967.

Darwin, O.F. [aln]

And isn’t that good news, because it looks a heck of a lot better without it.

Thanks Arch and Darwin!

I guess I’ll be learning more about jets as the kits roll on. I was doing some more internet browsing late last night and I saw that there was basically an early and a late -E version. One with the hump and one without respectively.

I’ve always liked the look of the A-4 with the hump and, while tempted to use it, I care more about the historical accuracy and I’ll build McCain’s plane sans hump.

Thanks again for the info, guys!

Eric

You could do T R Swartz’s A-4, the first man to take down a Mig with a Zuni rocket! For those of you who don’t know, a Zuni is an unguided air to ground rocket.

I interviewed him for a Timeless Voices interview, great man with amazing stories.

Ditto, no Avionics “hump”. McCain was flying A4E Bu. No. 149959 with VA 163 (The Saints) off of the U.S.S. Oriskany. The aircraft had the # 300 on the nose. Do a web search and you will find several pictures of the aircraft before it was shot down. IIR it was his flight leaders (squadron leader?) aircraft he was flying that fateful day.

Look at this site for info on any Skyhawk you want to know about…and then some…

http://a4skyhawk.org/

FWIW, In Navy squadrons the “X00” aircraft would have the CAG’s (air group commander) name on it, while “X01” would be assigned to the squadron CO and “X02” to the squadron XO.

In reality pilots seldom ever fly the aircraft assigned to them with their name painted on the canopy.

Mark

The more I learn, the more I learn that I know so little. LOL! I guess I’m kind of confused a little. Was McCain flying with VA 163 when he got shot down or was he with another squadron either then or perhaps before that? I’m looking at the decal placement and painting guide for the Monogram kit. It shows John McCain’s A-4E from VA-45 “Klansmen” from the USS Forrestal, June 1967, BuNo 149996. Is what’s shown on the instruction sheet correct?

Thanks,

Eric

IIRC, he flew two or three tours over NVN off both the Forrestal and Oriskany, and he actually extended his time there and transferred to make up one units shortfall in pilots.

Here is the listing of his downing from Skyhawk.org

POW LCDR John Sidney McCain 26. Oct. 1967 A-4E 149959 (VA-163) struck byAAA

Great info Stik! Thanks! [:D[

And if you look carefully in the video of the fire on the Forrestal you can see him climbing out onto the refueling probe of an A-4 to get away from the fireball.