Iwata VS Badger

Sorry if this question has been asked before, or if it seems similar to a couple of other active threads in this forum right now. Those similar threads got me thinking, and I figured I would ask the “experts” some specific questions, so please bear with me.[:I]

So, I’m thinking of using part of my tax refund to get an Iwata airbrush. I have a badger 150 that works pretty well, but I do wish that I could paint thinner lines. I have a couple of questions that I am hoping someone can answer for me. What I THINK I am looking for is a double action, gravity feed AB. Now for the questions:

  • What are the differences of each model of Iwata airbrush as far as quality and which one would you recommend?

  • As I mentioned, I have a Badger 150. Will I gain an advantage by switching to an Iwata? If so, what will the advantages be?

Thanks in advance for any responses.[:D]
-erick

practice with your 150, you should be able to do great work with that one. If you’re bent on getting a new one, I’d vote for an Eclipse HP-CS. After 7 or 8 airbrushes of different manufacturers, that’s the one I swear by. Breeze to use and clean.

I’ll second Plums choice as I also have the HP-CS. I also have a Badger 200 that worked great, but since I got the Iwata, the Badger has been “benched”.
I spent a lot of time and posted many questions here in the forum before buying my Iwata, but I’ve never regretted the purchase.

Iwata’s site has a chart showing the different models of A/B’s and what each model is best used for. Here’s their site:
www.iwata-medea.com

I see that you are in Denver. Me too, in the Washington Park neighborhood. If you want to pay me a visit, I’ll let you try out my Iwata in my shop, and you can see first hand how it works before you buy one. Send me an email at stng955@cs.com.

stinger

As plum and stinger sez, Iwata it is. Its the jewel of aairbrush, expensive but you have to purchase 1 airbrush that last you a lifetime.[8D]

I own an Iwata HP-C+. Capable of hair size lines. You will not be disappointed.

hows the cs vs the bs? is it the same? i say the cm-c plus… just kidding, its not needed for models. go with the cs or the hp-c

That comes with practice, not a different airbrush.

Iwata basically has three lines of airbrushes with the Micron being the top, the HP-C, HP-B and others being the standard line and the Eclipse series being the ones suited best for hobby and modeling uses. I would go with an Eclipse as the others are not worth the extra cost for modeling.

I would say no, there is no real advantage except for a different design, feel, shape, etc. which may help you paint better. It’s hard to say.
If you have a #1 tip and needle (fine) for your Badger 150, you should be able to paint lines of around 1/32" with practice which is as fine as you will ever need for modeling.
The Iwata may have a nicer finish and a smoother trigger, but an airbrush does not necessarily make you paint better, that is up to the skills of the user. [2c]

Mike

I agree with mike. You should look at any upgrade of your airbrush as an upgrade of “potential”. I have used an old Aztek A320 single action for a couple of years and get great results with it. I recently bought an Iwata HP-CR that will “potentially” allow me to do far better things than the Aztek and it’s limitations will allow i.e thin lines and effects. Buying the HP-CR has not made me a better airbrusher (for the moment that is)…that will only come with PRACTICE!!..and only then will i benefit from the better quality of the Iwata

When I was a very little kid, like 3 or so, I used to believe that different shoes could make you run faster. As it turned out, the power was all in my legs.

Thanks for the input guys; I do appreciate all the comments. I am still not sure if I am going to get the Iwata or not. I have only tried Badger brushes and I’m eager to try out an Iwata, but I am not sure if the tax refund is going towards a new brush, or more kits.[:D]

If you have a good airbrush you like and are comfortable with it then GO FOR MORE KITS!

A friend of mine does great work with his 150, and he claims to spray as low as 8 psi. Aagin, I’d say practice with your 150 and save your money for later.

Is the 150 a double action? If so I’d probably stick with it if it was me. On the other hand, if you’re intent on getting a new airbrush, take a look at the Revolution CR, it’s cheap and good quality.

I believe the Badger 150 is a double-action bottle feeder. If I remember right it really is very versatile because you can get three useable tips with it. The tips were 0.25, 0.50 & 0.85mm and that makes it adaptable to make pencil fine lines to large area coverage. I believe the price is about under $60.

I’ve never tried one because I was weaned on a gravity feed and I don’t like bottles hanging below the airbrush hitting my painted, still wet, models.

The Badger would be a good AB to keep. Or if you are itching for a new AB then for under $60 a gravity feed Iwata HP-CR would make a short and nice list.

You don’t have to use the bottles on siphon-feeds.
I prefer the metal 1/4 oz cups that go on them.

Mike

I’ve got one of those cups. I think I even used it once. I tend to lean my airbrush at strange angles. Not a good thing to do with an open-top cup! It works fine, I’m just so accustomed to them.