I am trying to get paint together for Revell’s 1/72 H.P. Victor in camo, but cant seem to get any cross reference back to Tamiya acrylic, which I prefer to use.
I have tried Urban’s Colour Reference Charts without any joy - I don’t suppose anyone around here has been here before, or has any ideas?
Thanks.
If you can give the Revell color numbers maybe someone can help. Hemp, perhaps?
If you are looking at the Hemp over Light Aircraft Grey scheme, Tamiya’s closest matches are XF-57 Buff, which is a shade too yellow, and XF-20 Medium Grey, which is a little darker than you want. These are probably as close as you’ll get “out of the bottle” in Tamiya.
If you have access to Gunze acrylics, H336 Hemp and H332 Light Aircraft Grey should be exact matches.
There are two possible colour schemes. One is Dark Sea Grey and Dark Green over Light Aircraft Grey, the other is Hemp over Light Aircraft Grey. All these colours are available in the Humbrol enamel and acrylic ranges, the Xtracolor enamel and Xtracrylix acrylic ranges, and hte White Ensign Colourcoats enamel range. There are also matches for these colours in the Gunze range.
However, since Tamiya have only once featured a modern RAF aircraft in their range (the 1/48 Harrier GR.1, back in the 1970s), they don’t have deliberate matches for these colours in their range. that said, my research suggests the following:
Dark Sea Grey: XF-53
Dark Green: XF-13 or AS-09
Light Aircraft Grey: no match in the Tamiya range
Hemp: no match in the Tamiya range.
Having just looked at XF-53 and XF-13 in my paint racks, and compared them to the relevant BS318c colour chips (the British equivalent of the FS595 colour fan) I’m not overwhelmingly convinced that these are especially close matches either.
I would strongly suggest that you use one of the above ranges instead. In Humbrol, the colours you need are Hu.163, 164, 166 and 168. These are available in the Humbrol acrylic range, which should be readily available in Scotland, thin well with Halfords economy screenwash, and have the advantage over Tamiya acrylics of being brush-paintable.
White Ensign Colourcoats are a quality product too, and have the advantage over Zrtacolor/ Xtracrylix in that they are brush-paintable, if you thin them slightly, and that, unlike Hannants, White Ensign don’t require you to buy a kit at the same time as you order paint.
Cheers,
Chris.
Ahh, but there’s a third if you backdate from a K to a B…
I took the easy route (hah) and painted/ modified my Victor in anti-flash white. Had to paint the roundrels as I’d used the ones that came with the Vulcan, on the Vulcan.
Gunze Sangyo H336 is supposedly a good match for hemp. I also wholeheartedly support the use of Humbrol- I’ve been using it for the last year and it’s really superior in terms of color quality; not hard to get and I’m in the Colonies!
I generally build around two-three models a month, and I’ve tried Tamiya out but I really do not like it. The black doesn’t stick well, the white is gummy, all of the colors are very blue etc.
When you run out of Humbrol thinner, mineral spirits work well. Lacquer thinner does too, but it dries fast, flat and a little light in color.
Ahh, but there’s a third if you backdate from a K to a B…
Iindeed, but there’s a helluva lot of work in doing so - not least in shortening the wingspan about 2/3 the way towrds the tip. Those crescent wings don’t make this an easy task!
When the RAF stopped having prime responsibility for Britain’s nuclear deterrent in the late 1960s, the Anti-flash White aircraft were camouflaged, Some wer camouflaged in Dark Sea Grey/ Dark Green/ Light Aircraft Grey, but others were painted in Medium Sea Grey overall, with Dark Green camo stripes on the uppersurfaces. I believe - I’d have to check - that some of thetankers were painted in this scheme as well. Also, some Victors were tasked with the strategic reconnaissance role, since there were enough ~Vulcans to fulfill the bomber role.
In any event, the two finiish options OOB from the curent RoG boxing of the Matchbox Victor K.2 are Dark Sea Grey/ Dark Green/ Light Aircraft Grey and Hemp/ Light Aircraft Grey.
I’ve sucessfully thinned Humbrol Enamels with mineral spirits, laquer thinner (good for their gloss paints) and artists’ turpentine. I don’t think that I’ve ever used Humbrol’s own-brand thinner - I can buy a litre of mineral spirit for less than the price of a 28ml tinlet of the stuff, and it works just as well!
Cheers,
Chris.
Thanks for that, I knew that the collective knowledge of the forum (AKA the Hive) would provide the answers.