Headin' north...going downtown!

I built these along with, not for, a couple of group builds on other sites. I thought I’d post some pix here so you guys could take a look too.

This is a long one, but I’m proud of my work, so please bear with me.

After being away from the hobby for a long time, I finally finished my second project since my return. These are only my third and fourth kits in close to 10 years. My first project (first and second kits) was a pair of Testors P-51D Mustangs. These Thuds are Revellogram’s 1/48 D and F models. They were both started many moons ago, then relegated to model purgatory while life got in the way. The D I bought new, but the F I picked up second hand. I built them mostly OOB with a mishmash of aftermarket and kit decals, and a Bullpup, HARM, and ECM pod from…somewhere.

The squadron codes are real, but the serials and other minor details are not. I’m one of those, “if it looks cool, it’s good enough for me” guys. I don’t know if 357th F-models ever had the shark’s mouth, but c’mon, shark mouths just look cool. Especially on WW birds! The markings on the HARM and Bullpup aren’t 100% accurate, but the stripes add a little visual interest to the ordnance. Also, I don’t know if the Vietnam Fs (or any Thuds for that matter) carried this particular ECM. It’s what I had and it looked part. At least I think so. And that’s all that really matters, right?

Anyway, lurking on various modeling sites has allowed me to pick up a few pointers. Many of which I tried for the first time on these builds. For the most part, I’m happy with the way they came out. They’re not contest winners, but hey, I don’t compete. They’re solid “3 foot models,” as one board member so eloquently put it (Hi Don W!) and I’m OK with that. There are definitely things I’m pleased with, and a couple that I’m disappointed with. At least now I know what I have to work on with my next build.

So, how about we check out the Thuds? I’ll provide some commentary as we go.

Here are both:

This is my first attempt at SEA camo. Ever! The marking’s and paint’s “weathered” look came from using a combo of pre- and post-shading, watercolor washes, and pastels. ALL were a “first” for me.

After priming everything with my trusty Badger 175 and the lower camo color (light grey FS 36622), I pre-shaded with MM Aircraft Interior Black. After that, I drew the camo pattern onto the upper surfaces with a pencil. Next, I freehanded the outline/demarcation for the Dark Tan. Then I masked the tan using Silly Putty (I saw that trick in an old FSM issue), and sprayed the Medium Green outline. Next, I masked the Dark Green demarcation and sprayed that. Finally, I lightened each color with the same grey I used to prime, then went back and filled each color’s respective area, using light passes until I got the shade I wanted. After everything was painted, I lightened each color a little more, and went back and picked out some random panels. The markings were toned down with a few shots of a super-thin mixture of the base camo color. Although I think I could’ve toned the colors down a little bit more. (Firsts!)

The stripes on the D’s bombs were painted. I “primed” the bombs with yellow, and then cut thin strips of electrical tape to use as masking. I like electrical tape to mask around compound curves because it stretches. It has a nice elasticity to it that allows it to follow contours nicely. Plus, as you stretch it to match the curve, it pulls taut and leaves as nice sharp line with little glue residue. To paint, I sprayed both medium green and different “faded” shades of OD over the yellow to get the look I wanted. Oh, and the 750-pounders on the outboard pylons of the D? I used a pair that was in the F’s box. I think they look better than the 500-pounders that the instructions call for.

Speaking of ordnance, I “pinned” all the ordnance and gas bags to their pylons, and then to the kits. That is, I drilled holes in the pylons with corresponding holes in the ordnance and/or kits, and used small pieces of wire (paper clips actually) and super glue to stick everything together. (Another first!)

I ran into a small problem with the D’s centerline MER. When I built the assembly, I glued the bombs to the rack before mating it to the plane. In doing so, found that the vertical fins of the rearmost bombs obstructed the MER from sitting flush against the plane’s belly. I had to sand down the fins until it was close enough. If I would’ve kept sanding until the MER sat flush, the short fins would’ve been totally noticeable. My opinion is a small gap between the bomb bay and the MER is less noticeable than missing bomb fins. One thing I did with the MER before painting and assembly was hollow out the space between the rack and the pylon. (Another first!) It’s not really all that evident, but it was good practice.

The gear bays were painted MM flat white, the struts were painted MM steel, and both were given a watercolor wash. I picked out the molded-on lines on the struts with red and black to represent various hoses. The landing gear and main bays were left dirty, even though it may look heavy handed, because that’s what my 1:1 pics showed. I didn’t bother with the nose bay’s wash. Because of its depth, nothing would’ve been visible anyway. The landing lights on both the nose and main gear were hollowed out, painted gloss silver, and filled with watch crystal cement from Micro Mark to represent the bulb. (Thanks for the tip Fred, aka Gigatron.) It doesn’t look exactly like the real thing, but I think it looks better than the kits molded bulbs. At least this first attempt gave me some practice for my next build. (All firsts!)

For the Bullpup on the F, I cut an extra fuel tank free from its pylon. Using some thick stock, I chopped and shaped an adapter rail to use between the missile and the pylon. The HARM and ECM pod were painted up, detailed, and attached to their pylons too. Before I pinned everything together, I detailed the missiles using some spare decals, and a wash on all three. (All firsts!)

As I said earlier, the squadron codes are real, but the serials are not. I ran across an old “nose art” decal sheet in my spares box that I got years ago from Starship Modeler. I’m not into SciFi, but a random web search pulled up a sheet of cool pin-up style art. The sheet included other random markings besides the eye candy. One was this “Lucky Strike,” and others included the four individual playing card suits. I cobbled together this particular nose art thinking it would go perfectly with the fictional “777” serial. Something that I found a little wonky was the left side of the shark’s mouth. Aeromaster didn’t cut out the gun port. It’s not like it was difficult for me to do, I just found that a little “interesting.” After the mouth decal had dried, I went back with a new #11 blade and cut out the gun port outline. All the decals snuggled down nicely with a dousing or two of Microsol.

While we’re on the subject of the shark mouth, let me tell you about a scare I had. After coming around the last turn and starting down the home stretch, I had a decal lift off. Not an entire decal, but rather a large piece of it. I noticed that I hadn’t painted the antennas and strike camera under the nose of my F. I had already sealed the decals with MM dullcote so figured it was safe to mask over the decals to paint what I missed. I was wrong. A large part of the shark’s mouth came up with the tape. Luckily, I was able to remove it from the tape in one whole piece. After a frantic appeal for help on a couple of modeling boards, Ross M came to my rescue and suggested I use a little Future as a “bonding” solution. I brushed on a little Future and slid the decal piece into place. After I lined the torn piece up with the rest of the mouth, I brushed a little more future over the tear, just to help seal everything up. The Future’s since dried and I’ve re-sprayed a coat of flat. If you didn’t know the decal had torn, you’d be none the wiser!

Before:

After:

I remember buying the F kit second hand. When I opened it up, I found that it had a few extra parts from another -105 kit. Specifically, it had an extra set of exhaust petals. Instead of following the instructions and building the D kit with one “drooped” petal, I used an extra petal and built all four in the “extended” position. The F was built following the instructions with the standard “flaccid” petal. The exhausts were painted using non-buffing MM Metalizers. (Another first!) To start, they were “primed” with Steel, highlighted with Burnt Metal, then finally toned down with another misting of Steel. Lastly, I glued the stabilizers on both kits off center to give the builds a little visual variation.

None of the canopies have been glued on yet. I’m kicking around the idea of hacking up some pilot figures and posing them in the cockpits. (Will be a first.) For now, the canopies sit snugly enough to leave on without attaching them.

I’d say my biggest disappointment with my build is the wing/fuse joint. I mentioned earlier that these are OLD kits. I’ve had them for a long time. Back when I originally started them, I had the fuselage and wings joined before they were relegated to modeling limbo. When I pulled ‘em out, I snapped the wings free in order to facilitate painting. The snug wing joint was a casualty of the rebuild. I didn’t bother with filling because I didn’t want to lose the raised panel line detail. That’s something I’ll address with my next Thud. (Yes, there will be others.)

I’m also a little bummed that there was minor silvering under some decals. I used Future for the first time as my gloss coat beneath the decals, and before the flat coat went on, they all looked like they sealed up nicely against the gloss. There was no evidence of any silvering. I used Microsol as my solution, and everything seemed to snuggle down nicely. Luckily, it seems that the misting of the lightened base colors to tone down my decals covered the silvering…and I can live with that. After the flat coat was sprayed, one thing I noticed about the Future was, in some places, you can still see a bit of a sheen beneath the flat coat. And speaking of the flat coat, it orange-peeled on me. Not everywhere, just in some places. That was another drag. Although it’s not that bad, seeing as the orange peel gave the finish a little weather beaten look to it. Again…I can live with it. Unfortunately, these were the biggest downers and they involved the last two steps in the build process. I wasn’t about to strip everything off and try again. Chalk it up to a learning experience!

Oh, and before you eagle-eyed modelers ask, the lack of blade antennae and the Y-dumps on both kits can be attributed to the Carpet Monster…even though we have tile. Just so you know.

Anyway, thanks for taking the time to check out my builds and read my write up. Feel free to let loose with the comments and criticisms. I appreciate your feedback.

Cheers!

-O

Omar,

I have but one comment - WOW! These builds are definitley not “3 footers”, they would be strong contest contenders in a lot of shows! IMHO, you really hit the mark with your weathering, detailing and accenting. The SEA camo scheme is beautiful and that is not an easy scheme to do. I am not a “rivet counter” by an stretch of th imagination, and I applaud your livery and the markings on the stores really do liven up the subject, subtle, yet effective as all get out! The washes you applied on the gear really give it a 3-D appearance. You have mastered the concept of using many simple techniques to create a true masterpiece! I can only hope that my Thuds turn out half aas nicely as yours have! Thanks for sharing, I will be looking forward to seeingmuch more of your work!

Brian [C):-)]

Good looking Thuds, congratulations! Kinda partial to the JE tailcodes myself, though…[:)]

Excellent work! Both of these are contest material in my eyes. Well done. [tup]

Some nicely done Thuds!!!

Great work on the Thuds…a great comeback into the hobby. What’s next in the flight line?

im lovin it,omar. im gearing up for an ac 130 for the mud movers GB so your thuds are exactly the motivation i need for a complex SEA scheme.( a first for me also) ill be reading your post in the future for tips [oX)].

great job [tup]

S.A.R

Ps you should jump over to the GB and join-- a thud would be perfect there.

Yes, a Thud would be absolutely perfect in the Mud Movers GB! Great job, by the way. [tup]

Looks like “Route PAC Six” 101! We could hear them on the “fire push” if we were on a mountain top, and they always had a large audience in front of the radios.

gary

WOW! Thanks for the pats on the back guys! That’s the kind of motivation I need to keep me building! I’m glad I could return the favor and help a few of you push on with your projects. Remember, fair’s fair. Now that you’ve seen my plastic mashing, I get to see yours.

Mucker asked what’s next. Well, I have a couple of ideas. I have the venerable 1/48 Revellogram P-61 that I got as a gift. After all the bad things I’ve heard and read about it, I don’t know if my skills are up to the task. Still, I’d like to give it a go. (One of these days…) Or, I have a pair of the old Monogram 1/48 “A-18 Strike Fighters,” and a Testors/Italeri F-18 that’d I’d like to build up in a B model. I have a few sets of the Two Bobs “Fighting Omars,” and c’mon, I just have to build those. I know the “A-18s” and the Testors/Italeri aren’t the most accurate offerings, but I don’t care. I’m still learning and I can’t see justifying a bucket of money on a Hase or HB boxing. Besides, if it looks like the real 1:1 thing, it’s close enough for me. Also, there was a thread on ARC (I think) about “what-ifs.” IIRC, there was a post in there about an F-15 Wild Weasel. After all the glowing remarks I’ve run across about Revell’s 1/48 Strike Eagle, I may just have to delve into the imaginary world of “coulda-beens.” So, I have some options…

I dunno. What do you guys think?

Again, thanks for the kind words!

The 61 is a beast but can be tamed; here’s mine after a lot of sanding and filling:

Here’s my THUD:

Gotta love that SE Asia scheme!!!

Cue Mr Burns: “Excellent.”

Those are some sharp looking builds there. Your Thud blows mine out of the sky! It’s impressive to see what the old Black Widow can become in the hands of an expert. That’s why I’m saying I’m afraid to tackle it. Dunno if my skills are up to par. They’re definitely not on the same level as yours.

Still, thanks for the inspiration!

Cheers!

PS - You’re right. The SEA camo just looks the part. Hmm…maybe I’ll find me a Phantom to escort my Thuds…

Beautiful, beautiful work, O!! Fantastic detail and finish. [tup][tup] [bow]

Ken

Did you say, “Phantom”?

OK…now you’re just showing off…

[:D]

Seriously though, absolutely gorgeous.

Beautiful work! The Thud is certainly one of my favorite aircraft of that or any era. A couple comments on your ordinance. The D model carried those ECM pods but the WWs did not like to. H The pod interfered with the electronic gear they carried by masking the signals of the SAM radars they were looking for- the pod broadcast on the same frequencies. For a time, they were carried under orders though. On the later G WWs, the ECM gear was built into the “canoes” on the fuselage sides. The Bullpup was not a preferred weapon for the WW. Overall its performance was mediocre at best-they were not a popular missile to use. Shrikes, CBUs, 2.75 FFARs, and later Standard ARMs were the preferred tools of the trade. One final tip on US missiles, the two most common colors for stripes are yellow (indicates a live HE warhead), and brown (indicates a live rocket motor). But again, all these are small points. Your Thuds are gorgeous!

Hey stikpusher,

Nice to see another OCer on the boards. Where abouts in OC are you?

Thanks for the info. Good to know. I’ll try to dig up some brown decals for any future missiles.

Cheers!

-O

Yeah over time I have noticed there are a few of us on here. I am in Huntington, near the Costa Mesa/Newport side. What part is your home? You’ll have to come in to an IPMS/OC meeting with your work sometime. That is if you’re not a member already. Those Thuds need to be showed off!

I’m in Orange, but most of my friends live down in your neck of the woods. I’m down that way quite often actually.

Never really thought much about joining IPMS. With my schedule, it’s hard enough finding an hour here or there to build, much less to be able to attend meetings. Who knows though, I may stop in sometime.

Great to find another SoCaler on the boards!

Cherry-Flippen’-City!

Great post and EXCELLENT work!

…need inspiration to get to my long, long, long builds that I just can’t seem to get back to.