Gun models, real or imagined?

The gun kits that you have are thinking of were made by a Japanese company called “LS” and were 1:1 scale. They have not been available for some time, at least in the U.K. where restrictions on firearms and replica guns, metal or plastic, have become prohibitive in recent years.

There was another Japanese maker of film props called “Marushin” that made excellent replica firearms in plastic and metal, but again they have not been easily available for some time.

Ebay has several Pyro and Pyro licenced gun kits listed at present , notably Colt .36 Navy types but these were very poor kits in their hayday and are vastly overpriced now at $150.00 U.S. particularly as there are a number of U.S. companies offerinf superb non firing metal replicas of modern and 19th century handguns for little more than half that price.

The zinc replicas available in the USA until the 1980s were designed to break down and chamber solid brass cartridges

The descriptions of replicas available on-line no longer state that the firearm replicas disassemble like the original firearms.

I have been told many replicas are now simply solid, cast blocks of zinc / pot metal and are poor quality.

Here are some. Tell me which p-38 is the model. Or which black powder revolver is real. This is why these kits were discontinued.

Top and solo P38s are fakes, revolver (made to represent an N-frame Smith & Wesson) is also a fake (no model designation in crane well). Don’t know about the BP models.

I agree.
As for the black powder pistols…a plastic replica of the revolver on the bottom has never been produced.
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Pyro and Revell produced a Colt .44 model though, unless your scratch building skills are very, very good, the larger Colt style pistol contains details that would lead me to believe it is composed of metal and wood.
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In other words, unless the Colt is an old zinc metal replica ( not a plastic model kit ) , I would be willing to state both black powder pistols in your photo are real firearms despite your statement suggesting only one black powder pistol is real.
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Is the Colt a zinc metal replica?
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Out of curiosity, does anyone know if a Collector’s Armory ( zinc metal and wood ) black powder replica has ever been used in the commision of a crime?[^o)]

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HI :

It seems I remember many that I built ,way back then . There was , and because of the subject , I will mention it here .There was a manufacturer of the good old “capgun” here in TEXAS , the name was NICHOLS . Now what makes them special was the product line . There was of course the "COLT -45 calibre "PEACEMAKER " of which I had a matched pair .

They did a WINCHESTER model 74 rifle and quite a few more .The unique thing was the way you loaded the caps . The gun broke open like the real one for cleaning too ! When you loaded it , you opened the rear hatch (at the rear of the cylinder) and dropped out the bullets by spinning the cylinder.

Then you took the “bullets” pulled them apart and loaded a little round cap in the shell casing . Put them all back together ,re-load and then play "COWBOYS and INDIANS " again .Thing is , All their products were " life sized "and emulated the real thing. You didn’t take a “six - shooter” and fire it seventeen or eighteen times,like they always did in the movies .They were high quality toys , and if you took care of them , as you got older , you could hang them on the wall for display .

Model guns are neat and if you like them , the truth is L.S. does make some of the best available (The ONLY ones available ?? ) Tanker-builder

i think i build a 1-1 winchester lever action that somewhat functional. didn’t weight it so it never fely real.

i have a 45 flintlock pitol kit in the stash (real firing replica kit).

When I was about 10 - 12, I had built a full size plastic model of a Kentucky Flintlock rifle, and also a full size flintlock pistol. I remember that the pistol turned out ok, but the barrel on the rifle was NOT straight - it was in 3 sections (IIRC), so it went in 3 different directions. But, it was still fun to use playing “The Alamo” and other games that required muzzle loading firearms!

Later on I lived and worked in Japan for 6 years, and remember the first time I saw the replica firearms in a TOY store! I had to look closely to tell that they were not the real deal. I also bought and built a 1911 Commander model that functioned like the real thing, and had weights in it to feel like the real thing in my hand. At the time we returned to the USA, they had already instituted the rule that toy guns had to have the orange barrel, so I wasn’t allowed to bring it back with me :frowning:

Can the old PYRO rifle kits, ie; flintlock, Bavarian rifle, Moorish rifle and Winchester be considered difficult to build for younger ( pre-teen ) modelers?

Gentlemen,

Let’s get this back on topic. Passions run high around Amendment II and the subject of firearms in general. If you want to discuss the merits, please do so via PMs or better yet, exchange email addresses or phone numbers. Let’s keep the politics and the nasty-grams off the forum.

Thanks,

Tim

Guys,

I hate have to resort to this, but here goes:

This is the last warning. The offending posts have been deleted or edited. No more commentary about using guns, gun violence, amendments to the U.S. Constitution, police not getting it, or anything else political. WHEN WE SAY NO POLITICS ON THE FORUM, WE MEAN NO POLITICS ON THE FORUM. Discuss your political views elsewhere. This thread is about scale model replicas (and toy replicas by extension) of firearms. Collecting and building if you got’em.

We’ve been asked to treat members like the adults we all claim to be. Let’s stick to the rules.

If Aaron or I have to come in and tamp this sucker down again, we’ll remove it.

Tim

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Hey all. Many, many years ago when I was new to modelling I remember an aisle in my LHS that had some 1/1 (Or what I thought were 1/1) scale models of various pistols and firearms. I even remember building a .357 and Japanese Nambu much to the dismay of my mother. The kits had all the springs and levers to make a functional representation of a real gun in plastic. Shoot, the Nambu even had bullets that would fire, or rather impotently dribble out of the barrel when the trigger was pulled. I have since never seen them again. I imagine they were no longer allowed to be manufactured, for pretty obvious reasons. But they seemed to have vanished from the face of the earth. Nothing on E-bay and nothing in a Google search. Now I know college did a number on what functional brain cells I had, but does anyone remember these kits? When the clouds do ease up enough for a clear picture, I want to say the manufacturer may have been Academy or Minicraft…

[Manufacturers name was Life Scale and they produced many different gun models back in the late 70s.

They are out there but you’ll pay half of what a real one costs. Here’s a live auction for one now— http://www.ebay.com/itm/LS-1-1-Colt-45-Government-Model-Super-Scale-Pistol-Plastic-Model-Kit-P1001-1000-/141535272697?hash=item20f428def9

I’d never pay that for one. Every now and then you can get lucky and get a good price. By the way, it was LS, not LHS. , John

ROFL!! Another thread rises from the dead… Run for your lives!!!