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Hi Terry_Ottmanns, sorry for the delay in answering you but I was busy building my R677 Bunker for my next diorama and since I am scratch building it, it took me a lot of measuring and assembly time.

To answer you question, some are and some aren’t, and some are half built but not completed.
To save space, since many boxes came half empty and contained more fresh air than model pieces I took upon myself to stuff the remaining space in them with either other AFV models, soldier figures fitting the model itself, and all sorts of detailing stuff.

Of course to keep myself up to date to which box contains what, I set up a whole list of their contents in various Excel files, as well as registering them photographically in various folders dedicated to the various operations (i.e. Normandy (D-Day, Fiere Bridge, Carentan, St. Lo, Caen among others); Operation Market-Garden (Landing at Oosterbeek, Fighting the way to Arnhem, Siege at Arnhem); Hurtgen Forest (Danger in the Forest, Tragedy in the Forest, Those Damned Guns). These are just a few but there are more by subject and period.

I also separated the instruction sheets, decals and PE parts and placed them in plastic protection sheets within folders marking them in the same way. I did so after a hobby store owner - a friend of mine - suggested to do so in order to protect them from dust, sunlight or other weather and humidity conditions.

The same guy also suggested to keep all the Model Master enamel paint in their glass jars in an upside-down position, since that avoided them from evaporating and kept them naturally sealed for a very long time. He also suggested to occasionally shake the acrylic paints I have since they come in plastic bottles and some of their pigments are subject to dry over time. If finding one with goopy content, then adding a tiny bit thinner regains their fluidity.

For the unaware person that might find my stash of models after I am gone it will be an ordeal to find out how to reorder them appropriately in order to assemble, paint and decal them all.

I might probably leave some instructions in that regard, should anyone find them and be interested to reactivate my stash, but they will have the patience and discipline to fully understand them and read them thoroughly, since my logic might not be that of other people.

I do study the instructions carefully from top to bottom, but then mark my own thoughts unto them and if some phases seem illogical to me I simply revert the order of the actual assembly.
This is particularly important when assembling tiny pieces throughout.
It is best to mount them first and then proceed with the largest parts.

Some instructions are so spurious and mysterious or squarely nonsensical that I just follow my own nose and instinct and I seldom fail. Besides, I got used to always dry fit parts before actually glue them into place. This has saved me from irremediable fatal mistakes that might ensue by just gluing something right away.

And believe me, I learned my lessons over time, since I too were frantically trying to always glue parts and repented my action afterwards when discovering that I glued either the wrong part or the right part in the wrong position.

Well, concerning the imagining what those men might have felt during or after a battle, since I was also an actor and a stage director, to me it was never too difficult.
Of course I also have a very wild imagination, but beyond that, I also have known people who were actually involved in battles in war situations, be it in World War II, the Korean War, the Vietnam War or even the Gulf War and apparently they all had the very same experience.

No matter if you were in the Infantry, in Mechanized troops, a Marine, a Pilot, a Reconnaissance Officer or an Anti-Aircraft Gun operator, the fear of dying was following them all, but they also always reported that after a day in battle you were simply so exhausted that you were grateful when you could finally fall asleep.

Of course the worst always comes once you return home, when you face so called “normal” conditions and you have to once again fall in line as a civilian, or even if you still remain in the Armed Forces, Bad dreams and nightmares follow you for many years and you see all the faces of your fallen companions. Whether you were close friends of not makes no difference. They were all human beings, breathing one moment and dead the next.

But what was even worse, according to many veterans - and that’s what they all have in common - is a constant guilt feeling following you throughout life.
Questions like why me and not the others, referring to staying alive instead of dying, or even why all that slaughter and now we are all friends again is very often recurring in such men and it is really torturing them deep in their innermost feelings.

This is why so many tend to keep it all bottled up, although this being the wrong approach, but they can’t help it and ignore the possibilities to find some kind person willing to listen to them.

One of those people was indeed my father-in-law, named like me Pat, for Patrick Keating, who for decades never dared utter a word to either his wife or his daughter only to meet me, who actually understood, or at least could well imagine what such men went through.

I probably inherited such a sensitivity from my mom and my grandma, since I was raised by them due to the fact that my so called father abandoned my mother while pregnant. He said he was not prepared to be a father and was unwilling to get married, since they too went through war with lots of pain and deprivations.

My grandmother and her husband had to leave Germany (Leipzig) shortly after Adolf Hitler came to power since they were apolitical, and believe me, the Nazis had no tolerance with people who didn’t clearly expressed great enthusiasm for the NSDAP.
Those who were apolitical were automatically deemed potential traitors since they could possibly turn towards Communism or other forms of rebellion.
Just nonsense of course, but such were the realities in 1932 onwards.

After seeking refuge in Spain, in Barcelona, shortly afterwards the Civil War started and once again my Grandma had to flee with her three children, among whom was my mother. My grandfather with the eldest son decided to flee to France only to face the Vichy forces and then the GESTAPO. My grandfather landed in a Luftwaffe concentration camp near Switzerland and his eldest son was tortured by the GESTAPO leaving him a cripple for life.

My grandmother managed to get a visa in Fascist Italy, but then, when voices ran that the Germans would occupy that Country, she once again fled with her three daughters to Switzerland seeking refuge.

So, you can well imagine that I grew up with such stories, and I later dived deeper into the origins of World War II and the actual war period, be it in the West or in the East.

As I said, this is probably why I was always a good listener to people who would share their pain of having served to free us from tyranny, including some Russians, former Red Army and Polish liberation forces affiliated with the British Army. But not only in WWII.

Somehow I can feel their emotions and their pain, they enter in my fibers and can well imagine what they must have gone through during those various conflicts.

After all, aren’t we all human beings in flesh and blood? So why can’t some feel the same?
I do and deeply so, and what my father-in-law reported was indeed heart rendering.
While he was telling me about his experiences he showed me many photographs of his comrades in arms, some still alive and some instead, tragically having lost their lives for a just cause, sometimes even just for a freak accident.

While he was showing all that, including some reconnaissance photos he took of Peleliu or even Guadalcanal after the bombings among many others, I saw him hiding his face and getting his handkerchief to dry his eyes.

I could really feel for the young man he was back then and the question arose within me: what would I have done or felt if my closest friend was just blown to pieces by a Japanese bomb exploding right in front of my own eyes?
That’s exactly what Pat was showing me right at that very moment.
One moment the guy was smiling and joking, and a few moments later, entering the photo developing barrack, dead in an instant.

Such are indeed moments no one can ever forget. This is why we who can feel, always say “Lest we forget”, since it would be a foul shame if we did.

And those who do not want to remember, are either too ignorant or too carefree for their own good, since if people forget such moments and do not learn from history, will be inevitably the next victims in an unnecessary war not of their own making.

There is also the saying that states “Those who don’t learn from history are condemned to repeat it” and this is true today as it was over seventy years ago.

And it is for this very reason that I am giving my all to build historically accurate dioramas of that period. Granted, a bit limited in scope, since my field of personal expertise, also due to the experiences of my own family, is the War in Europe, more than in the Pacific, and especially during the last year of war.

Why this and not the beginning? Because many do not understand that it was precisely during that last year, between 1944 and 1945, that everything was being decided, both on Eastern Front as well as on the North-Western one.
I am more familiar with the NW Front, since I traveled many times to France, Belgium and the Netherlands, as well as along the German border coasting these Countries and have seen the terrains of the battles that were fought there.

Of course much has changed in time, but when comparing historic pictures to those very fields of battle one immediately recognizes the difficulty they all represented to force the German troops out of Europe and this is also one of my considerations when replicating those same terrains in scale.

And so, after having probably bored you to tears, I end it all here. Perhaps you must have perceived now why I have embarked in such a difficult operation as to recreate all those battles.
It is not to glorify them or to celebrate war. Quite the contrary, it is my way to warn people of what real war is all about, whether back then or today.

This is also why I do not always depict glorious attacks by anyone, but rather exhausted and fearing soldiers in combat to attempt to stay alive at least another day or so, and I do so with both sides, whether on the Allied side or that of the Germans, because beneath the uniform they were all basically just human beings, except maybe the German special forces, the WSS.

Mine are all warnings in scale and my only hope is that young and future generations may learn from them and do not just consider them board games or toys. This is also why I want to infuse as much real static life into them as possible. It might be only a frame in time, but a significant one nevertheless.

Pictures alone don’t seem to make it because they are flat and sometimes just in Black & White which makes them remote to some people, but perhaps by displaying them in 3D on a diorama and in color might make the whole difference.

OK, I said enough, I am a blabberer as you can see, but I just wanted to clarify my motives of doing what I have set myself to do.

I hope you will forgive me for the length of this message and understand my meaning.

I wish you well as always and hope to see soon something of your artistry into the Pacific Front.

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again what a response. i read every word. i don’t have your ability to tell a story but i also wear my heart on my sleeve.
with no relatives to talk to I rely on stories. and yours was awesome. thank you very much.
I’ve read a series of books called “the things our fathers saw”. lots of sad WWII stories. so many stories that will never be told because most the vets are dead.
keep up the good work. I’m really enjoying this forum. have more knowledge but not sure of my limited ability but will keep trying.

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Know that unstable hand thing. I’m 73 and I bought a Dispiae hand stabilizer, AT-HS Precision Hand Stabilizer. It wasn’t cheap but you can find others that are similar at lower prices. It works for me and is a great aid to doing those fine painting things that you come across all the time.

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Never let your guard down and don’t allow anyone to put you down. If you are convinced about what you are doing and your enthusiasm pushes you to reproduce something in scale just go for it and ignore all the nay-sayers.

How many times have I heard from others that something was not feasible, or even that I was mad to attempt to tackle with something? I can’t count the times, but this never did let me down, quite the contrary.

The more people tried to convince me to abandon a project the more convinced I became that I was on the right track with it.

Of course I am talking about my directorial mansions on stage which are not too much dissimilar from what we are doing in scale with depicting our models into a specific scenario.

The scale doesn’t really matter, it is the work that is required to bring it all together that really counts.

It is true that it is not always easy, and sometimes it is quite mind boggling, especially when a project can only be put in practice with a very limited budget.

But that’s when the mind comes into play. How to solve that conundrum and bypass such difficulties with something less costly but equally effective or indeed spectacular without breaking the bank.

It is just a matter of what materials to use, how to set up a stage and fill it with something of value that will enrich the play.

If one can manage it in a constraint space such as in a theatre, he can do so anywhere.

Of course not everyone is born an actor or a stage director, and not everyone must have the same creativity or creative mind, but the same principle applies to any other human endeavor.

If one puts his or her own mind to work and has the will and the passion to accomplish something, it will become real.

It is all about our conviction and our belief in ourselves that lies the secret in achieving something. It might not always be fully perfect, but who ever said that everything must be perfect?

It is the effort that one puts in his own labor that really counts. Some might do better jobs with something and some won’t, but then again, those who manage to do better jobs might have been at it for many years before they finally managed to find their own true skills and thus also found some secrets of their own trade.

So, I repeat, never loose faith in your own skills. The more you will build, the more you will find your own refinements coming to light.

This said, only accept constructive suggestions or critiques and reject all those who try to put you down or make ridiculous observations about your own work.

Always remember: Michelangelo. Leonardo da Vinci, Galileo Galilei, Copernicus, Beethoven or Einstein would never have become what they are had they listened to others and they too had to start from scratch not knowing anything of their own potential skills.
All this followed throughout years of practice and perseverance, as well as by doing and experimenting.

And therefore I say, never diminish yourself in front of others, especially not here in this forum. We are all here to learn from our own peers and if someone has more skills than others I am sure he will share them with our community so that those who need such experience may adopt it in time.

Once more I wish you well and hope not to have been to preachy. It was not my intent, it was just to reignite your own passion and allow you to convince yourself that anything that is built is of value, whether set in a diorama or not makes absolutely no difference. It’s your effort that really counts.

All the best, hoping to see something built by your hands very soon.

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Terry
I grew up crawling through and on the Memphis Belle. By the time they moved it from the original placement outside a National Guard Armory, it was in sad shape. I hear that now it is much better cared for. I was also in the Viet Nam era but on the USS Forrestal (after the fire). I found this thread after just searching on Google for when is it time to quit modeling. At 78, my hand termor is like trying to balance marbles on a needle. I was trying to work on a Tamiya F4U-1A (my fourth try on my fourth box) and I just could not get it done even with a weighted glove and to steady blocks. I have a room full of tools, paints, and unbuild models but finishing one seems to be evading me. Not sure what path to take now but hopefully tomorrow is a better day. THanks everyone on this thread for all the ideas.

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Dr P
i sure hope you don’t give up. i really struggle with anything smaller than 1/48 scale. I make mistakes in every model and tell guys it looks good from 5 ft. that doesn’t seem to be the answer to my telling myself something sucks but then i realize… nobody is going to get right down there and look and if i could find a model show i would go… without my models. and I probably won’t pay any pics cause now days up close pictures are very clear. my first advice is put only your favorite models or ones that your compassionate about. in other words, where’s your heart. if nothing else concentrate on the paint job and the fact that this is a lifetime hobby.
Lastly I have a suggestion. introduce a young man to the hobby. if you are lucky enough to have trusted relatives or close friends with young girls that would also be ok, but now days with all the crap going on it gets very hard to work with young people let along girls. too bad but that’s how it is..
i wish you all the luck in the world sir. don’t give up just change things up a bit thank you so much for talking to me.

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we went and saw the Belle the day after it was unveiled. what a special day. it is beautiful and we spent a week at the museum. shew is now
perched on pedestals with the landing gear up and the bomb bay doors open. you can look up into the bomb bay. I’m very proud to have been there and my other favorite WWll plant, the B29 Bockscar

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Got to see the B-29 “Fifi” in flight a few years ago


Also got to go thru it too,pretty cool

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