Hey all, just wondering if ANYBODY has ever seen one of these in real life, or if anyone has ever seen inside the cargo hold of one of these babies.
I recently scored an old Testors/Italeri kit, and the scale is perfect for some super detailing inside, if only I knew what the inside looked like, and the net has a few B&W pics, but nothing in colour.([:(])
Any info would be fantastic.
Thanks in advance.
Been inside a couple when I was younger, crawled through the crashed one in Resolute Bay (not much left now), but unfortunately don’t have any interior photos.
It is a neat plane, good luck with your build,
Bruce
C119s were used during the Korean War for cargo of course also paratroops. Theres not much to say for inside detail. Why not put some cargo inside, such as trucks ,jeeps,boxes etc.
Some cargo to suit the era is the current plan, including tiedowns and nets etc.
One of my biggest concerns was the location of control panels and wiring, also lights.
It’s a large scale, 1/72, but the hold is a bit dark, so some LED’s from a mobile phone would be just right, powered from a few watch batteries.
Guess I’ll have to use some good ol’ common sense, and alotta imagination.
I’m not particularly familiar with the type, but wasnt that the type used in the Mel Gibson film “Air America”? I’ve probably got the wrong plane, but if it is, then watching the film gives you loads of great inside shots. Another film which might help is “The Flight of the Phoenix”. Again, I may well have the wrong plane, but that one has loads of good stuff in too.
ChrisJH666
The Air America bird was a C-123 and the Phoenix bird was a C-82 Packet (the predecessor of the C-119, powered by PW R-2800s).
tweety1
The only Buck 19s I ever worked on had been converted to air tankers and the interiors on those were aluminum (except one which had the interior painted light gray). As far as equipment location is concerned, suggest you see if you can find someplace on the net that supplies aircraft manuals and see if the Dash One (Flight Manual) is available. They usually have pictures and drawings of where various pieces of equipment are located in the aircraft. (Be ready for some real sticker shock if you find one though)
qmiester
Thanks for the info. I was right, I’m not familiar with the type!! lol. Not really my area. Worth a shot though [banghead][D)]
This may help ya for some color pics of the exterior of the C-119, not much for the interior.
I grew up around these aircraft and among others that have been converted to firetankers by Hawkins and Powers Aviation. Pick up the latest issue of Air Classics, volume 40 issue #3, they are remaking the “Flight of the Pheonix” film using a C-119 instead of the C-82. Which H&P has the only “flying” C-82 left in the world. H&P restored one of the many C-119 they have for this movie which will star Dennis Quaid playing the role of Capt. Frank Towns.
Tweety,
You sure picked a tough one. I went through the data base of publications I have and came up with a few scant references. The Squadron/Signal softbound “Gunships:
A Pictorial history of Spooky” by Larry Davis has some interior stuff on the AC-119G/K.
It isn’t much, but you may be able to dope out the beginnings of something.
Years ago I used to get a lot of photo help from the local VFW. You may run into some '50’s/'60’s paratroopers who have some interior shots. Even better would be an engineer type who worked on them. Good luck.
Was the boxcar the plane used in the movie, The flight of the Phoenix?
Dan
Thanks for all your help guys, guess I’ll keep looking.
Yes it was used in the movie.
The site posted above has a picture of the plane they used.
And a large thankyou goes to Kagemusha for finding the above site, got myself an awesome cokpit view, and am in the process of contacting some people for more information.
Once again, thanks Kagemusha.[:D][:D][:D][:D][:D][:D]
The one and only 119 I ever saw was at Pope AFB in '89.
We had just taken off and as we climbed I saw a wingless 119 with a C47 at the end of the ramp.
I got a dodgy photo - herc windows aren’t the best - If I can find it I’ll post it.
Paul
Tweety1,
Check out: http://www.oldprops.f9.co.uk/C119.htm
Unfortunately, no interior pics.
Scott
I’m not to sure where you are from,but there is a Boxcar at Castle Air Museum in Atwater, Calif.sometime in May they have an open cockpit day and most of there planes are available to go thru.There is also one at the Flying Leatherneck Marine MUseum in Miramar, Calif.hope this little helps…
Tweety:
I did a little bit of digging, and found an interior photo in my RCAF history books. This shows insulation blankets on the interior sidewalls and ceiling. These would be a silvery-grey; and whether other users carried these I do not know. Otherwise the interior is good old zinc chromate green.
There are two other museums up here who you might ask, through their web sites;
National Aeronautical Museum, Ottawa
Canadian Warplane Heritage, Hamilton
Good luck,
Bruce
There are some interior shots of the cockpit and navs station here along with a lot of other cockpits.:
http://gra.midco.net/mlgould/A-F.html
Here is an image of the back end opened up, Not much detail but a little of the doors and some cargo in there.
A good walkaround site with some interior shots at.
http://aircraftwalkaround.hobbyvista.com/c119/c119.htm
Here is some future pilot (or load master) sitting inside a 119
http://inconnu.isu.edu/~ink/kyle/2000%20September%20Hill%20Air%20Force%20Base/pages/Inside%20a%20C-119.htm
Hope these help some.
As a couple others stated before the C-82 Packet was used in “Flight of the Phoenix” not the C-119. It was smaller than the C-119.
You’re welcome tweety1, glad I could help out!
The second web page with the red web netting and light gray or silver interior is what I remember of USAF C-119s in the late 60s. The web netting and seats you see are for troops, usually airborn.
The aircraft shook, rattled, and rolled as it moved down the runway. I did not think it was going to get off the ground. It reeked of av-gas, and vomit from 1st time jumpers.
We could not wait to get out of the SOB. We finished training with C-130s. Man what a difference. By comparison it felt like the C-130 could climb straight up.
They say 9 out of ten paratroopers are afraid their first jump. The 10th guy is a lier!
What was the name of that Indian? The Flying Boxcar. That was a few rides I’ll never forget, and never ever want to repeat. You can have the MFer. rangerj