You see pictures of 50 cal machine guns mounted on jeeps, many modelers like to put them on their jeep models .
The fact or fiction part of this post is, did the recoil wreak the floors of the jeep where it was mounted and could it flip a jeep. I could picture a 150 or 160 pound guy hanging over the side of a jeep shooting at a plane maybe tipping it on it’s side. I’ve read that when fighter pilots opened up with their 50’s they would notice a drop in airspeed .
Most fighters of the era used 6-8 AN/M2 .50 cals, so the effect would have been more pronounced in an aircraft. Also, jeeps look small, but they still weigh over a ton, I don’t think a .50 would knock one over that easily.
Also, consider that the airplane is in the air, without the resistance of sitting on the ground. In the air, a P-47 could be affected in its path of flight by a crosswind, but that same wind, if blowing across the jeep, will not blow it over.
As Newton said; To every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. Then what would be the opposite force being applied against the mass and velocity of this aircraft from the firing of eight (as in the case of a P-47) 50 cals? I don’t think that it would be much, it isn’t like they are retro rockets.
I knew a gentleman who was a P-61 gunner. He said that firing the 4 20mm’s cost 10-15 knots airspeed.
I once was next to a very small guy at the outdoor range who had the biggest .44 revolver I’ve ever seen. When he fired with a two hand grip, he staggered back a couple of steps and I suddenly felt down range.
Does firing the guns of a AC-130 push the aircraft sideways? I’ve read that firing the main guns of an Iowa class battleship does not push it laterally even though in photos it looks like it does. There again it is mass as a big factor.
Did you know that multiple barreled installations of naval rifles fire slightly out of sync for a reason? I wonder if that same problem occurs with multiple MG’s in the wing of an aircraft.
The .50 cal. Ma Deuce is not quite generating that much recoil. The dynamics of its operation will dissipate a good amount of that recoil energy by their motions. Yes it jumps around quite a bit on a pintle mount, but I do no honestly see it tipping a jeep or similar 1/4 ton vehicle… I think the pintle mount would likely break loose from the floorboard before any tipping would occur on flat ground…
Gulf of Aden (May 14, 2005) - Fire Controlman Steven Baumgartner from Oelwein, Iowa, assigned to Combat Systems Department aboard the guided missile cruiser USS Normandy (CG 60), fires the twin .50 caliber machine gun during a Pre-Action Calibration Fire (PACFIRE) exercise. Normandy is currently conducting Maritime Security Operations (MSO), in the 5th Fleet area of responsibility. U.S. Navy photo by Photographer’s Mate 1st Class Robert R. McRill. [This Image was released by the United States Navy with the ID 050514-N-5526M-012.jpg]
But again, water is far more dense than air, and not compressible. This means that the battleship encounters a LOT more resistance than the plane in the air does. Also, AC-130 crews have said that the 105 in particular does affect the flight path a bit when firing–the 105 has a recoil force of over 10,000 pounds! I recall that B-25 crews would say the same thing about the 75mm cannon firing, that it would feel like the plane slowed down a bit when firing. Either way, its important to remember that anything in the air is encountering far less resistance than something firmly on the ground, and even less than compared to a ship in the water.
As far as the A-10 goes, the recoil thrust is approximately equal to the thrust of one engine. Remember that the firing time is only a second or so, so the total drop in speed is not much, but if you could sustain the firing for a period of time, it would be like only having 1 engine, instead of 2. Same thing would be true of the P-47, or any other multiple gun battery. I have a hard time believing that the recoil of the 50 cal could tip or damage a Jeep on a stable surface.
The A-10 gives a 3 second burst so the plane stays in the air and does not stall. In these 3 seconds about 150 uranium cored bullets, the size of a coca cola bottle, are thrown at a tank/car/building. The recoil is heavy…
But the pic of the 2 barrel gun… must be great to fire them…
the projectile off the A-10’s 30mm gun is not the size of a coca cola bottle. It is roughly about the size of 2 “C” cell batteries end to end. But far heavier.