f105-f wild weasel ecm pods/weapons load

greetings: I am getting ready for next project. revell f105f/g thud. I confused about the ecm pods and weapon load for the f version of the wild weasel. one reference shows the ecm pods on the pylons under the wings with shrike missle 600 gallon tank and cbu bombs. while another shows them with ecm pods against the body of plane and have smaller tanks under the wings with agm-78 standard and shrike. which is correct? lastly does any aftermarket decal still exists.

armyrn

When the F-105F was used in the Wild Weasel roll, they usually carried one ECM pod on a outboard station along with a AGM-45 on the other. Loads differed on the other pylons such as tanks or AGM-78’s. When used in the bombing roll they could be configured as the standard F-105D.

It was the dedicated F-105G Wild Weasel that didn’t need an ECM pod because they carried the ALQ-100 pods on the fuselage. The outboard pylons were loaded with AGM-45’s, inboard pylon, one Drop tank, and one AGM-78. Centerline had a drop tank or pylon mounted MER with bombs. Weapon loads differed with each mission so research is vital for the aircraft you are building.

I’ll second what berny13 said. As for aftermarket decals, Aeromaster still has some nice sheets available for the F-105F and F-105G.

I love the -105G. It’s my favorite aircraft. For my kit, I used a rarely seen sheet from Fowler Aviation. I wanted my Thud to have a “GA” tailcode and this was the only sheet I know of that has it. The drawback was that the G’s didn’t have a sharkmouth while wearing the GA tailcodes. If you want a sharkmouth, then you have to use the black “WW” tailcode which doesn’t show up well on the camouflage. Now, there are white tailcodes with sharkmouths, but then it wouldn’t be a George AFB airplane, which is what I really want…

Oh…the dilemmas we modelers face. Why does life have to be filled with such difficult decisions??? :slight_smile:

All two seat F-105s were built as F model pilot trainers. The back seat instrument panel was nearly a carbon copy of the front seat. The Wild Weasel program started in Viet Nam using the F-100F, but they needed a faster airplane so the USAF converted something like 84 of the F trainers to F Wild Weasel. They had a radically different instrument panel in the back seat for monitoring and controlling the new electronics. There were virtually no external differences other than some very small antennas under the nose.

These were pretty successful in SAM hunter/killer mission, but the USAF wanted an even better version, so they added some more electronics inside and antenna’s on the outside. These early G’s didnot have the big canoe shaped pods on the lower fuselage. These were added a little later in life when the USAF split an ALQ ECM pod in half and put half on each side of the airplane. This was to free up under wing pylons for anti-radiation missiles or bombs.

Darwin, O.F. [alien]

If you don’t already have the right weapons load outs you can always purchase a Weapons kit from Hasegawa. They are relatively cheap and should be easy to find check your LHS.

berny13 said it best . . .

Generally speaking, the easiest way to tell the difference between an “F” and a “G” Wild Weasel is to look for the ALQ “canoe” fairings under the fuselage on each side of the (unused) bomb bay (the internal bomb bay usually contained an extra fuel cell instead of a dropable weapon). Sounds like the first example you’re talking about is an “F” (hence the ALQ-87 ECM pod on the wing), and the second one is a “G”. And, yeah, the standard loadout on a “G” was one AGM-45 Shrike and an AGM-78 Standard ARM (Anti-Radiation Missle).

The "G"s from Korat carried a “JB” tail code and a shark mouth. I can send you a photo or wo if you want.

There were three distinct versions of the F-105 Wild Weasel.

  1. F-105F which could carry one or two AGM-45 Shrike missiles

  2. F-105G without the fuselage canoes, which could carry the AGM-78A Standard ARM

  3. F-105G with the fuselage canoes, which could carry the AGM-78B Standard ARM. The canoes actually had nothing to do with which missile could be carried, but were added at the same time as the ability to carry the AGM-78B along with some other ECM changes.

Darwin, O.F. [alien]

hello armyrn, I didn’t see a scale specified so I hope this decal info helps.

MS 72-368 has decs for 1 ‘F’(no sqn info) and 3 ‘G’ s…128 TFS Ga. ANG, 388 TFW 561 TFS Korat AFB, 35 TFW 562 TFS.

the ‘F’ is overall aluminum with med green antiglare, all the 'G’s are camo

I’ve had this dec sheet for some time so no idea if still produced.

Brian

Thanks for the great info. I have the ecm pods from the weapon set d by hasagawa, this project is for me to regain some lost skill and this kit is simple and straight forward, I have some other kits back home and intended to do a more detail version when I get back from Iraq. Thanks again

armyrn