I am currently working on trumpeters 1/350 uss hornet doolittle raid. I have bith sets of an interactive for the us navy paints. What are going to be my primary paints for this? some paints translate over well form the directions and some of them are close but not exactly. also i notice that the deck isn’t a wood color it’s more of a gray blue. What would be the best color for this out of the ak set. Luckily i already have the paint masks for this kit too
I can answer you in detail when I get home tomorrow.
The deck is stained Weather Deck Blue 20B.
Thats a nice model.
USS Hornet CV-8 wore MS-12 Modified for most of her short service life. Haze Gray, Ocean Gray, and Sea Blue were the colors used on all vertical surfaces.
The wooden deck was stained, IIRC Norfolk 251. It’s color value would be similar to 5-O Ocean Gray. No major deck markings, just some alignment lines.
Oh, well that’s an easy repaint at this stage.
http://www.modelwarships.com/features/current/hornet-color/hornet-color.htm
This authors conclusion seems to be that the deck was 250-N at the time of her sinking (wood parts). metal parts 20-B. Color back in April? His conclusion seems to be the same, for lack of conflicting evidence.
Bill
From a couple of sources I have decided to go with 250-N for my April 1942 flight deck. I ordered Scale Colors USN Norfolk 250N Flight Deck Stain. For the hanger deck, the best I could come up with is Model Air 71.053 Dark Sea Gray; and white for the walls.
So, what is the difference between 250N and 251N? This document from the Norfolk ship yard throws a bit of light on the subject! “Low Visibility Flight Deck Stain (Formula 250N) and Low Visibility Flight Deck Marking Stain (Formula 251N) - Specifications for.” http://www.researcheratlarge.com/Ships/S19-7/1942DecemberFlightDeckStain.html
So 251 is the lines etc.?
Tankluver, go thru this discussion https://members.boardhost.com/Warship/msg/1597448029.html & especially this https://members.boardhost.com/Warship/msg/1597554152.html
Here is a related question. WWII era USN flight decks are constructed of wood and metal. X amount of planks, followed by a metal frame with tie down cleats, repeat, from the forward end of the flight deck to the after end. Obviously the wood planking will be in ”Flight Deck Stain”. What color is the tie down cleat framing? Deck Blue? Can stain be used on the metal portions?
will be paint not stain as stain is for prous materials like wood & concrete.
That makes sense. So then would the paint on the framing be Deck Blue? My semi educated wild a$$ guess says that…
yes
Yes
I always wondered this as well. I’ve seen deck kits for the 1/350 carriers and always see them advertised as the wooden deck but when i look at the paint instructions it’s the deck blue color. it always confused me And left me asking the question of would it be a wood color or is it stained?
So far what I’ve gathered from this is that I’m going to use AK Interactives Deck Blue for my flight deck. Then for the camouflage scheme I’m going to go with a sea blue and a haze gray. When looking down at the kit i was thinking of using a light grey for the top of the island and any exposed parts not covered by the deck blue. Thoughts on this?
All colors are from the AK Interactive sets.
It’s 5-O Ocean Gray with a disruptive pattern of 5-N Navy Blue on the lower hull below the flight deck. From the flight deck up and on the island its 5-H Haze Gray with a disruptive pattern of 5-O Ocean Gray.
The Doolittle raid paint instructions for trumpeter are calling for the isalnd to be painted with the sea blue as well. That’s a very nice photo there is that prior to departure? Not sure why the instructions would make that big of a mistake. Thank you for the photo And clarification !
Go to the NAVSOURCE page on the Hornet
http://www.navsource.org/archives/02/08.htm
There are multiple pix of the Hornet which show the island. Granted, there is a color one which shows the island marked in a darker gray. If you look down on the hull you will see obvious blue waves (along and above the dock level). Measure 12R is generally blue and Ocean Gray (5O) on the hull and Ocean Gray and Haze Gray (5H) on the superstructure. On the Hornet, the separation line occurs just below the flight deck level.
If you do enough research on the Hornet, you will probably conclude that the Trumpeter paint instructions are not very accurate; but close enough to make a fine model.