Hello everyone, I am new to the forum and Fine Scale, I really enjoy the Military models that I see in the mag and on-line, I pretty new to modeling so to start out I just finished a 359 Conventional Peterbuilt, that turned out good. My question for this is my next model is a M998 HMMWV Desert Patrol by Italeri and since my experience was from Desert Storm I want to do a few from that era before getting into WWI ond WWII.
Does anyone know where or how I can find the color names or codes for all the desert colors, I amusing Model Master Acrylics.
You might want to go with the old MERDC colors, sand 30277, and field drab 30118, or use the NATO/CARC brown and black. I dont think any HMMWVs ever wore the MERDC colors, and it is possible that the DS sand was painted over the green and possibly black on the NATO tri color scheme (rarely done but I have seen that stateside). But almost all equipment that was repainted was done in a single overall sand scheme.
There were two paint schemes used in Desert Storm. (Well, that I saw…there may have been some vehicles that I DIDN’T see ) Smoe of the stuff, especially the first to go over, were still in the NATO tri-color woodland camo. After a few days running around in the sand, or a nice sandstorm, they wore a convinving natural sand “blanket”, and so the woodland camo wasn’t noticable. The vehicles that went over later (Including my battalion) were given an overall single color desert sand color. (Ours were given a slightly pink cast, which we laughed at. Until getting to the desert - especially IRAQ - and finding that the SAND has the same slightly pink color.) SO, if you’re going to do a Hummer from the DS era, I’d go with a single color sand. The link hta was provided is a good color match for the color we used.
Take note that only the exteriors were painted for Desert Storm, and any canvas, etc was still that green color. (I never knew the name of the color, it was just “Army Green”.) Also, spare parts weren’t painted, so if there was a replacement wheel, it would be in the green color, not sand.
One more thing…the paint that was used at the time (not sure about now) was ALL “CARC”. It stands for “Chemical Agent Resistive Coating”, and all the combat vehicles (and support vehicles) used it. Just a bit of info I picked up somehow while I was in. Hated the stuff, but it covered easily, and usually with one coat! (Yes, I had to hand-paint with it a bit. I had a trailer that needed touched-up, so I did. Took several days to do it right. Went on leave, came back to get ready for deployment to Saudi Arabia, and watched them paint over my carefully applied tri-color scheme. That ticked me off, you know!)
Yes, chemical warfare was a big thing back then. All thru the 80s and at least past Desert Storm NBC was heavily emphasized in units. It was rare not to be in the field and not in MOPP 2at least. And with Iraq’s use of chemical agents against Iran, and it’s own people, it was foolish not to think Iraq would not use those muntions again.
Awesome that is alot of great info, I was in the Air Force and served in DS Operation Sothern Watch. was a great experience. Looking forward to starting the Humvee. I am getting back into modeling and desided touse acrylics, I stocked up onsome MOdel Master but found a new hobby store selling bigger bottles of Tamiya for less money. You opinions on those two paint manufactures?
My understanding is that the Desert Storm “Sand” colour was a local improvised mix and was somewhat darker than the current CARC sand. I believe Model Master “Gulf War Sand” is appropriate for ODS vehicles.
) Smoe of the stuff, especially the first to go over, were still in the NATO tri-color woodland camo. After a few days running around in the sand, or a nice sandstorm, they wore a convinving natural sand “blanket”, and so the woodland camo wasn’t noticable. The vehicles that went over later (Including my battalion) were given an overall single color desert sand color. (Ours were given a slightly pink cast, which we laughed at. Until getting to the desert - especially IRAQ - and finding that the SAND has the same slightly pink color.) SO, if you’re going to do a Hummer from the DS era, I’d go with a single color sand. The link hta was provided is a good color match for the color we used.