We built a US Custom Service Citation from a civilian version kit about
10 years ago.I think it was a Fujimi or Hasegawa.The problem is I can’t find
one now.Does anybody remember this kit and are they around anymore? I
would love to build another one. I also built a Hawker Sidley corp version.I can’t
find it either.The Citation was 1/48 and the Sidley was 1/72 . Someone has got
to have these kits somewhere in this world. Ok thanks for your Time.
Davey5
dhi69@aol.com
The only Citation I could find was a 1/72 vacform one by Sanger. It’s on Hannants website www.hannants.co.uk
Hasegawa made a Citation in 1/48. The one I have says it’s kit number T002. They are out there, just keep looking.
There were three or four jets in the series, and I wish Hasegawa would reissue them. I guess general aviation planes don’t sell very well, but I’d buy them again in an instant.
I did a Google search and found one here: http://www.collectaire.com/advisor/advisor05.html
I don’t know anything about collectaire.com
Hi Davey. there were two De Havilland / Hawker Siddley 125s in 1/72nd scale on the market the airfix kit depicted an R.A.F example from the collage of air warfare at manby and the Matchbox kit (a series 600 aircraft depicted both an R.A.F CC2 and a civilian example. try someone like www.kingkit.co.uk or www.kitkrazy.com for both the 125 and citation kits.
hope this helps
Greg
The Airfix one was a Dominie, which if I remember correctly was similar to a series 1
but like a lot of RAF aircraft , were different to others of the same series.
The Matchbox was a CC2 or a 600 series civilian a/c but it didnt have the TFE731 engines - the Northolt based a/c had 731’s fitted and for a while operated 3b’s,600’s and 700’s during the mid to late 80’s (I was based there at the time).
After you find your kit, why don’t you join us on the General Aviation GB? It starts Aug 1.
While we’re talking about biz jets (I wish there were many more kits of them), I read recently in a British modeling magazine that Revell Germany recently released a 1/48 Dassault Falcon jet, it include civil markings for an American registered aircraft as well as a French naval variant.
Anyone know anything about the kit? Is it a trully new kit or just a reissue? Is it any good at all?
not sure on this but i think it may be an ex hasegawa mold they did a falcon, citation and a lear if i remember right.
hope this helps.
Greg
Canadians used or still use Falcon’s for ECM work. The look cool in their livery. Haven’t seen one lately, but I haven’t been around a Canadian air base. The one I saw was visiting Ellington ANG Base.
Thanks guys …you have joged my memory;;; There were 3 1/48 scale civilian
kits.A Lear,Falcon 10,and the Citation. I have built one citation and 1Falcon.And yes
they should reisue that seris.I have a request for a Citation right now and I just delivered
a Lear-35.With all the companies that lease and sell jets to multible owners ,I am getting a few requests for personal aircraft.As for the group build ,I don’t have the room in my shop to start another job.Right now there is 2 Revell ships,a 1/48 C130,and a 1933 kit bashed to match coup.I also have 2 jobs waiting to start.
So thanks for all your input .If I can help anybody with anything E me up
The best to all
Davey5
dhi69@aol.com
I remember in my younger days building a Rockwell Commander (?) business jet in 1/72 by Aurora. They also did the twin prop Commander too I believe. It’s a long time back to remember exactly!!!
The Canadian Forces retired the Falcons in the late 80s and replaced them with an ECM version of the Canadair Challenger.
In about the mid 1990s, CFB North bay in Ontario where the Canadian Forces’ electronic warfare unit, 414 Squadron was based; was shut down as an active air base.
414’s mixed fleet of EW Challengers and T-birds were split between 414 which was transfered to CFB Comox in British Columbia and 434 which was at CFB Shearwater in Nova Scotia. The T-birds were retired from Canadian service in early 2000 and I think both 414 and 434 were both disbanded after that. Not sure what the state of the EW Challengers currently is.
I learned of Canadian ECM Falcons on my first ride in a fast jet, a Texas ANG F-4C. The Canadians were visiting and training with the unit, 111th FIS. I remember when we got up there and started fighting the “bad guys”, they had the Canadian Falcon on their side, and whenever we tried to make radio communication with the rest of our flight, the sound of everything from Bagpipes to Chuck Berry clogged up our com frequencies. It was a real eye (ear?) opener. Those Falcons – not exactly in the E-3 size category – were packed to the gunwhales with black boxes. And chaff, too. I was the “back seater” (meaning that, as a civilian, I was naught more than ballast. The only job that has to be done in the back seat of F-4 is turning the right knobs to bring the INS on line) and when they let go of the chaff my screen went all white.
There’s a private firm which flies out of Teesside Airport which flies ECM Falcons for the RAF to play against. I seem to recall they have an overall dark blue colour scheme
This is getting way off, but the mention of the Canadian T-Bird for ECM work (training, I imagine) reminds me of its use for that in US. My local ANG unit, 111th TFW, used two T-Birds up till about the end of the 80s, and they carried chaff pods and simple ECM gear under the wings. Guard pilots at the unit used to call it their “Sealth Bomber” because – lo and behold – you could get right up on one in a radar intercept for a sure tail shot and it would practically disappear! By some accident, using older radar the old T-33 was accidentally given a tiny radar signiture at certain angles. This unit had one bird I wrote a feature about on its retirement, because it came to this ANG unit new from Lockheed in 1952 and flew straight on to 1986, when it was sent to St. Louis, where two .50 cal guns and updated avionics were to be added so it could be given to Mexican Air Force for front-line service! The neat thing was that it had the same crew chief from delivery to retirement, and he retired with the bird. Among the anecdotes he told me was how he couldn’t for the life of him teach young George W. Bush Jr. to taxi the thing with its differential steering. Makes you wonder how good of a stick Jr. was in F-102. I know answer, but this is not a political forum. His squadron mates told me long before, when he only known as President Bush’s son. I really want to model one, but I can’t find kit with the “modern” tip tanks. I guess Hobbycraft doesn’t make it anymore, only the Korean war style undertip tanks. Some good AM parts to dress that kit up.