I know this is more of a childish subject but in another forum called “Ideas from images”, I learn you can get ideas from anything and so I got alot of ideas from the video game “Call of Duty Roads to victory” for PSP (play station portable). I think it one of the best WW2 base game ever made and funn too, but best of all there are many scene that are mostly accurate events like Operation Market garden 1944, and fairly easy to do for a dio. My head is bobbly with ideas, what do you all think?
I wouldn’t use any video game as reference for a dio or model. They are not that historically accurate or detailed. You will get much better info from good old research on internet sites or (heaven forbid) a reference book. You will be amazed at what you will be able to find with some good ol’ fashioned research.
For inspiration yes! Referance no. I too enjoy WWII games on my comp and find myself inspired for a dio idea from either some action or a cutscene from the game. But As HeaveyArty said not for referance.
Dios can be whatever you want. If you’re looking for historical accuracy, games are just not up to the task, but for inspiration, why not? The original PC game Call of Duty had many scenes lifted straight from movies. The opening scene of Russians crossing the Volga came from Enemy at the Gate. The street scene of Carentan is from Band of Brothers.
The assumption is yours. I quite agree that games aren’t accurate, nor am I saying movies are. But as inspiration they’re both fine. Dios don’t “have” to be accurate to be dios. If someone did a “Battle of Hoth” dio, I wouldn’t give them a hard time about accuracy. Same with painting figures of Roman Gladiators. There is darn little reference and fewer pictures about what colors were used.
In defence of CoD, they spent an considerable amount of time and effort trying to be as historically accurate as they could be in a computer game. Their scenes of 88s look like pics of the real thing. The 88s may be missing details, but the look is there. The also paid homage to some great scenes from movies. Enemy at the Gate may have been dreck for accuracy, but the scene crossing the Volga is powerful. The “spawn point” at Carentan is the same location that Band of Brothers used in the mini-series, and they even had the piano left in the middle of the street.
You prefer historical accuracy, and that’s fine. In fact, down right excellent! I’m an admirer of your work. Others may prefer capturing the “feel” of the moment. And some will be in between.
Histoiricly the game isn’t accurate, for example, most of the levels are happening in netherland september 1944, in operation marcket garden (don’t know if there was such mission) too many solider keep coming back after behing dead[^]. Also There tiger 1 were still in there panzer gray suite, only early tiger were gray, and I don’t think they did good desine with there Panzer IV. And I don’t believe that a hazerman (german half-track) can be beaten by a machine gun, and did anyone heard of a panzersherk?
Althought the there are two scene that could be easy to do and I’m really intertasted.
The first scene is from the first level of a willy jeep got shot by a panzer IV (I will check if its camo is correct) and a few americain soliders are escaping in a trench.
I agree, for inspiration and ideas, games and movies are fine. For an actual referance, they are not.
The game sounds like they at least based it on actual battles. Operation Market Garden was in Sep '44 in Holland. There also was a Panzerschreck, it was basically the forerunner of the RPG (Rocket Propelled Grenade). A large caliber MG (.50 cal and above) can damage or destroy (if hit in the right spot) a halftrack as well. They only protected the crew against schrapnel and small arms fire, .30 cal and below.
Wouldn’t the Panzerfaust be the forerunner of the RPG? It looks like one.
From my information, the Panzerschreck was a German copy of our Bazooka, but heavier (88mm compared to 60mm). Our larger replacement, the M20 (89mm), didn’t appear until Korea.
Yes there is the .50 caliber gun in the game, so thats why it was so easy beaten them, the buliding look just liek they were bomb and destroyed, and at the begining of each level you read a introduction written by a actuak team leader of the squared, ex: Calgary highlanders.
There are many weapons, artilery and armor in the game all real like the thompson machine gun, .50 calliber gun, Panzer IV, the wellie jeep, hazerman, persenel carriers, tiger 1 and anti-aircraft guns.
Unfortunatly you can driver the armor, only your enemy can, I’m sure that the full version game (on xbox or PC) you can drive them, but you can use the artilery and in one level your on a B-24 manning the turrets.
One of my favorite level is operation detroid, when your sranded british glider crew has to reach CO alive, not easy with all the hazerman around.
I wouldn’t use the weapons effects in the game as a gauge to real weapons effects. It is only a computer game for entertainment purposes. It is like going to a movie, you should leave reality at the door.
I especially like the five or six shots from a M1 Garand that’s required before your opponent decides to lay down and stay down! It plays both ways though, as you can take quite a beating before you die in CoD. CoD2 is worse, though. You NEVER die, all you have to do is find a hiding hole before building up your health.
CoD: UO had arty, which seems like fun, until your opponents figure out your spawn point and then it’s spawn, die, spawn, die, etc. You could drive the jeeps and tanks. My buds and I had a great game one time where all we did was use the jeeps and run each other over.
The biggest fraud in this game is when you are hit by bullets, the more your character gets hurt, but her’s the thing, your characyer gets heal as time goes by, and faster than expected, (about 3 second) I don’t think you would even be alive after one hit[xx(].
Yeah video games are probably not the best source of information you have to choose from. many parts of most games (especially CoD) are based off of movies, which has already put their own dramatic spin on whatever it’s about, then the developers of the game add in extra stuff to make it entertaining to play, and by the end of this process you wind up with a large amount of historical innacuracies. I also personally don’t trust anything that gets information from Enemy at The Gates.
Nonetheless Call of Duty is a pretty cool game. any chance anyone here plays Day of Defeat?
Guys…it’s a game, have fun with it. Of course it’s not accurate! Why does everything need to be overly analyzed. Just think back 30 years ago when the only war games we had were made outta card board!