There’s a review at IPMS: http://www.ipmsusa.org/ It’s in the What’s New section for August 28 under Products.
On a personal note, I’ve never understood why someone needs to spray a fine of a line as possible when it comes to modeling. I wonder if people assume that if an airbrush can spray a fine line, then it will be a great airbrush. Anyway, it’s your money not mine. I get great results with my Paasche H for $50. Free hand camo and all…
-Jesse
The need for a fine line/spray pattern all depends on what you intend to paint. I use my AB’s for many painting purposes, including laying down base coats and, painting small parts on models such as tools and rims of road wheels. I couldn’t do that without a fine spray pattern. As for camo, that too depends on what type you’re doing. It would be great to see what you’ve done so far.
As has been posted many other times, the skill level with the AB is more important than the quality of the tool. That said, a person who puts some thought and effort into their work will get better results with a higher quality brush. Besides, getting that “fine line,” if you need it, is a combination of several factors, including: your needle size, paint thickness, amount of paint being applied and, pressure being used. And don’t forget the steady hand!
I happen to like higher end AB’s. IMO, the quality of the construction and parts is well worth the money. I also like to have a wider variety of needle sizes to work with so I don’t have to change them out on the same brush. In th end, it all comes down to what a person is most comfortable with and where they want to spend their money.
All,
I appreciate all the feedback and interest in the new guns (and the old). I do visit here frequently and try to observe and utilize the thoughts and suggestions you have related to airbrush products. Just a couple of things I want to quickly inform on regarding some of the discussions in this thread.
I know our website is currently a catastrophe. I am promised by the site developer it will make notable progress after the Labor Day holiday. In that regard if anyone wishes to contribute by inclusion, please send me pics of your finshed pieces and we’ll find a place for you in our gallery as it is expanded. My direct email is kenbadger@aol.com
The needle on the Velocity (and the Spirit) is more sensitive than other needles. This is mostly because of the finer linear flow angle. This finer angle is also in part why the Renegade more finely atomizes paint, minimizes overspray, and allows finer line creation and control (and yes to many it is noticeable). Our Engineer is researching materials and processes to lessen the needles sensitivity. We are actually testing some hardening processes at this time. (We’ll find ways to keep you abreast of product changes if and when they occur. We are limited as to what we can say in the forums as it can be perceived as commercial, which would not be fair to our competitors and may not be acceptable forum policy)
Stating information, that may have adverse effect on the party to which such information applies, in a manner that implies it as fact or possible fact, without any relevant insight, is not an informed opinion. Saying “I don’t know” later, to me at least, does not justify the act. In some instances it may be considered slanderous. Whether such acts are constitutionally protecetd or not, they don’t seem to be acts of integrity. Of course you’re not constitutionally obligated to care about integrity, but integrity is a character trait I hold high - and try to act with in my daily life. I am hopeful and confident most here feel the same. I will always do my best to post, in this or any other forum, only what I know to be verifiable. (yes, I know this whole paragraph up until now has been opinion.) I ask that when it comes to me or my company, Badger Air-Brush Co. the forum do the same. If you want to know something about Badger, I am open to your questions at the email address above. I know I can’t force this, but I do respectfully ask it. I do not wish to engage in any debate or create any indifference (Lord knows I’m at odds enough with three kids who know everything, LOL) I am simply asking the same level of respect and fairness I will afford all here in my dealings with them.
I hope you all have blessed Labor Day holiday.
God Bless all who serve - keep them in your prayers.
Take air,
Ken @ Badger
Mark 10:27
Here’s a recent build. The camo was done free hand (no masking at all) with a Paasche H external mix, single action.
-Jesse
I don’t post here a lot any more, for reasons of my own choosing, however I did want to pass along one thing that happened a few years ago and still sticks in my mind as an indicator of Badger’s ethics and commitment to customer satisfaction.
As background, I do consider myself to be a patriotic person but at the same time I won’t support a company simply and purely because they are an American company. In my opinion, if an American company manufactures or sells something that is inferior to a foreign product then they deserve to not sell it. I won’t support them over a foreign company simply because they are American, but I will gladly support them if they provide quality products and services. I also will not recommend them to anyone because I to have ethics and will not recommend something I consider to be inferior purely because of country of origin.
To continue, a few years ago I sent Badger an email asking about the availability of a part for one of my older airbrushes. I wanted a steel cap siphon cap for my old Badger 200, not the plastic ones they are manufacturing now. About an hour after I sent the email I received an answer stating that the part was still available, and it included the part number and a list of a couple of places I could order it from. I was at work so I thanked them in an email and went back to work with the intent to order the part when I got home that evening. A couple of hours later I got an email from Ken Schlotfeldt informing me that the part number that I had been sent was incorrect. It was for a metal cap however it was for a different airbrush. He gave me the correct part number and also said that if I had already ordered one to let him know so they could get me the correct part at no charge.
When the president of a company takes the time to insure that all aspects of his company are working to provide exceptional customer satisfaction, even down to the level of looking through email that has been sent, that says a lot to me. Badger, in my opinion, manufactures exceptional airbrushes at a competitive price and their dedication to their customers is second to none. I will gladly support them and recommend them with no reservations whatsoever.
Oh, and by the way, both of my motorcycles were designed, engineered, and manufactured in Japan.
In today’s global economic, it matters more how it is made than where it is made. This thread is originally a discussion of the Badger Renegade Velocity Airbrush. A wonderful effort to create a high-end airbrush to be sold at a mid-range price point. It is something that we are all interested in and wish Badger to be successful. As my longterm airbrush experience was limited to one Paasche AB, I eagerly waited for first hand account such as that by Scrambler8. We all want to know how close did Badger accomplish its goal. The forum is supposed to be frank and open.
Unfortunately, this thread has become personally and, to a degree, political. It is time to end it.
huh?
Too much crying over spilt milk here. End the thread because of some personal opinions?
Anyways, still awaiting something from MikeV on this. I’m in the neighbourhood of getting something soon, and the price for this is just right.
Hey all,
I have had the Renegade for about a month now and put it to use about a dozen or so times. I gotta tell ya’ I think this thing is beautiful. It sprays flawless lines and is the most comofrtable thing I’ve ever held airbrush-wise. Badger has done a great job with this gun. I did use a micron for my figure detailing, but it’s been down awhile because I couldn’t get (afford) a new tip and needle for it. I don’t think I’ll have to worry about savin’ up to get those parts ever as the Velocity is doing tighter vein work than my micron ever did. Anyhow just wanted to share my thoughts on what I think is damn great airbrush, so far.
Kosmonot out
Kosmo, would you recommend it for freehand camo?
E
highly!
the control of spray and comfort in intricate applications has been incredible. This gun, the velocity, is really a dream for model finishing eventhough it was designed as an automotive gun. something about these new springs they’re using makes it feel more responsive to what I want it to do.
Kosmonot out
E.
I gotta laugh, although I know I’m in the minority of guys here who have tried the Renegade, to have someone ask me my thoughts with so many knowledgeable and talented model finishers here, and me being here for like a day, is like an honor. I love this forum man.
kosmonot out
E.
The one problem I have had with the Renegade is that I have been trying to get the another one or two and noone has them. If you kow of anyone who has 'em, please let me know.
kosmonot out