Hey you can enter our build, I shure wish I could get my hands on a Lancaster, but I cant find one anywhere[:(]. Ill put you on the group build list.
Hey everyone, I have two new additions to my 1/48 family, Tamiya P-47D-25 Bubbletop Thunderbolt, and the Monogram 1/48 TBD-1 Devistator. A bit far off from the 1/72 bomber I was going to get today, but just as good[:D]
Vintage:
Jets seem to be extremely underrepresented in the build, so I thought of doing maybe
an A-6 Intruder (1/48 Monogram) as my first choice or an A-7 Corsair II (1/48 Hasegawa)
as my second. These planes are of course technically classified as “Attack” aircraft instead of bombers, but I guarantee you those weren’t watermelons that they dropped
on the NVA. What say you, chief?
Vintage Aircraft,
Thanks for adding me, now have to find 4 Hercules 14 radials, cowls and props, a nightmare yes, but worth the trouble to remember my Grandfather.
Ok I am thinking of joining in I noticed that some guys are doing Fighter bombers. Is this the case? Or just chatter among the group? Either wat I have lots of fighter bombers and a few bombers in the way of a 1/48 lancaster from tamiya, 1/72 RB-36 peacemaker, No room for these when completed and testors B2 but it is not a very good kit,along with a B25 mitchell and B 26 maurader both monograms.I wont even go into the fighter bombers yet.
Ok since people are asking if a fighter bomber/attack aircraft would be able to get into this group a decision has to be made. I belive that a fighter bomber/attack aircraft is not a bomber, since it also perfoms the roll of a fighter/attack aircraft. A bomber does not. If we do allow fighter bombers/attackaircraft in than the basic fighter/attack aircraft is also allowed in because almost all of the fighters/attack aircraft developed could be and were used as fighter bombers, thus the pure-bredness of the group is lost. Also because I feel that bomber kits and modelers are very under represented in the face of so many fighter/attack aircfraft kits, that is the reason I wanted to start this build in the first place . But that is just my opinion, and because this is a group I dont belive only one person should have a say in this so it will be put up to a vote among current members, Yes fighter bombers/attack aircraft should be allowed , no fighter bombers/attack aircraft should not be allowed. And if they are allowed I think only a limited number should be in.
Here is the painted noseart on “Mystical Adventure”. I need a new Digital Camera, this one got dropped in my cooler last fall and spent a few hours in ice water. I think the shutter is wacked.
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Scott
VA:
My “vote”:
Build advertised as Medium & Heavy Bombers.
No light bombers, no attack bombers, no fighter bombers, no patrol bombers, no dive bombers, no torpedo bombers.
Only Medium & Heavy Bombers.
Yes - medium/heavy Bombers only - otherwise it will become very dubious as to what in fact may beincluded. Not really surre why we need the debate - the initial description was abundantly clear was it not?
I for one have no problem with the limits imposed by Vintage, BUT–consider this: there
are several aircraft out there that really blur the demarcation line between medium bombers & the attack / light bomber class. The two that come to mind immediately are
the A-20 & the aircraft that was developed from it, the A/B-26 Invader. They had an appearance, performance & function very similar to the Mitchell & Marauder, & it seems to me that the real difference here is one of terminology rather than substance. The
issue becomes even stickier when we consider that one of the classic medium bombers of all time, the B-25, was frequently used in the attack role in the SW pacific
theatre. Please forgive me if I’m being a pest, but I think it would be a good idea to give the participants as much of a choice of subjects as possible within the parameters laid down by Vintage. After all, who wants to see the same aircraft built over & over again in a group build? We should all respectfully obey the wishes of the group leader, but first let’s get through the process–natural to a group build, in my opinion–of deciding which of these fringe-dwelling aircraft fit within the specified boundaries. I think it would most fair to decide on a case by case basis. So, how about it? A-20 & A-26–in or out? Any others that anybody else can think of?
Well-- I can withdraw from the build with my PBY if others wish…I just only had that and a B-26 on my pile…I don’t really want to start the B-26 right now- so I had chosen the PBY…it was after all a 2 engine bomber/ rescue aircraft… seems to me no real difference between it and a B-25 or B-26 as they all did similar duty in the Pacific on their attacks on the Tokyo Express…but I will humbly withdraw if the group wishes…
Hey guys, if it was a medium to heavy aircraft (two or more engines) and you have documantation that it drops bombs, then built it. Otherwise we will argue until the cows come home about the roles of the A26, A20 and B25 because yes, they were modified into the attack fighter/bomber role. But they were still used as bombers. Same with seaplanes. All of those patrol aircraft were setup to drop bombs and depth charges on U-Boats. So, I would think a PBY, PBM, Short Sutherland, Condor, etc should qualify and give us some unique new perspectives.
Scott
Keep the votes comeing, there are some intriguing ideas in here that I want to think through some more, and I will post a decision on this at 5:00 Central time, as to what the build will include, or if it will stay the same.
oh and scottrc great looking michell, Im quite impressed.
HI
I think we should stick to bombers, two or more engines and a bomb bay.
Just my thought.
I have advocated sticking to the original concept - and that really is not difficult - but after all this is a “fun thing” and so please let us not develop it into anything heavy. I feel sure that now views have ben aired everyone has a fair idea of where the boundaries lie and also that a little bit of discretion - may be even a large little bit is permissable. Can I suggest then that the “build” continues without further ado, we all obey the “unwritten” rules and produce the goods accordingly?
Wow I didnt intend to start anything guys. I am sorry. I was just wanting to Know since there was talk about it from a few people. If we are talkin 2 or more engines and a bomb bay then the Dehavilland Mosquito would be considered, I dont think it falls in the bomber catagory does or did it?
Hey you didnt start anything, I just decided to try and resolve this issue that inevitably would have come up sooner or later and might have gotten out of hand, so I really thank you for bringing it up.
vintage, I was going to do a Ju88 let me know if I can play or not.
Thad
Hey the JU88 was a bomber, built as one and used as one, plus it was a medium so your in the clear
Thanks Vintage, Didnt want to break any rules
Thad