I’m currently building the 1/16 T-34/85 mod. 1944 and I would really like to scratchbuild the Mine-roller attachment. I have the scale drawings of it in the Airconnection book but it says it was usually found on 76mm gunned T-34s.
If someone have any reference on a T-34/85 that was equiped with that, please speak up.
I want to build that tank as accurate as possible so if I cannot find any reference on a existing tank with that mine-roller, I will not build it.
[8-] In the case of actual proof, I can’t help you. It would seem that in a wartime situation that they would use whichever vehicle that would be available. It appears that since the hulls of these tanks were nearly identical there would be no problem with attachment. [?] Really, how could you know (without documentation) in such a large scale war front scenario. Anyway, with the effort you are putting into this, [tup] I applaud your efforts to do this right. I also bet you’re wishing you had the T-34/76 so you put this on without question. [:P] The mineroller will make this a very unique “over the top” build for this scale and I’m sure it will be looked forward to by all.
Steve
You’re right. If I dont do it for that one, I’ll buy the T-34/76 just to be able to scratchbuild this. But like you said … on such a large scale war, almost everything is possible.
Let’s say once all that is done, I’m satisfied enough about my build to dare to bring it into a contest, do you guys think they will take that in consideration? I mean, if there is no proof if it ever existed on a T-34/85 or not …???
Most contest judges evaluate a kit on construction basics, paint, weathering, seam filling, etc. Not whether or not the T-34/85 used a mine roller or not.
Eastern Express did a T-34/85 with mine roller:
Page 95 of Motor Book’s; Russian Tanks of WWII has a photo of a T-34/85 equipped with the Mugalev mine-roller. While the roller itself is not attached, the boom and cables are plainly visible.
Wow, many thanks guys. That’s enough for me to go along with the project.
Damn I like these forums.
Cheers [#toast]
I have 3 pics-- 2 t-34/76s and 1 '85-- the mine roller was designated ‘PT3’ used from '43 in Kursk through 1945-- in a few days, I will have a new printer/scanner ( my old one crapped out about 3 days ago) so after the weekend i could scan and send to you if you want— tread[8D]
That would be great Tread. Thanks. Just PM me when you’re ready.
I hope your pictures will be clearer Tread but I have some difficulties to understand the drawing on page 484 of the “T-34 Mythical Weapon” book. There is a shaft that is not centered with the wheel and I can’t figure out what it is. I’m a professional designer and I can’t understand it. Am I getting dumber with time or this drawing is wrong or is there missing details?
Edited: When I compare the drawings in my book with available pictures on the web, it is completely different. I wonder if the drawings in my book are good?
If someone can help me, I would appreciate.
here is my take on what looks like misalignment— there is a forward central shaft or beam supported with brackets, clevis pins and cables. there is a perpendicular transverse shaft for the actual rollers- which have ‘keepers’ on either end-- the rollers and probes themselves are very sloppy fitting allowing for impact absorbtion upon detonation of said mine-- that is my theory and i am stickin to it!!-- lol-[(-D]–seriously- this is kind of like a farmers tool that is dragged behind the tractor to create ‘furrows’-only in reverse-- look at page 290-- also about the fenders,–there is a pic with the rear plate down and fenders on the hull-- --personally I think the techs working on the motor disassembled the rear plate incorrectly- or at least less easily than it was intended(page 280) I consider 'mythical weapons ’ to be more or less the t-34 bible-- the pics i would have sent you would have come from it- – let me know what you think dude!![:D]–tread[:P]-- p.s. do not over engineer it( or thinking about it)-- think ‘simplicity’ that is the basis of this tank
I made the comparison with the farmstead furrows as well Tread. Isn’t funny, I’m actually in charge of the engineering department of a manufacturer of Manure Handling Machinery called HOULE. These equipments looks alot like farm equipment.
Thanks for that page 290 note. For an obscur reason, I haven’t seen it yet. I exactly understand how it works now. Many thanks.
Now about the fenders, you can see on the scale drawing on page 499 that the rear plate is shallower, allowing it to open and avoiding the fenders. Which you can clearly see o the hull on page 280 as you mentionned. Compare that scale drawing with the one on page 496 and you’ll see that this gap uis missing and you can see the bolted holding bracket on page 497 which does not appear on page 498.
You know what? When I started mdeling about a year ago, I thought you were all a bunch of freak when you were talking like that. Now look who’s talking.[#wstupid]
[(-D] Man, we got alllll walks of life on this forum!
Funny-
A book I read of soviet tactics during ww2 stated they used conscripted troops (at gun point) to run through a suspected minefield to clear it.
An american general, once he heard about that, was horrified. The soviets told him the only thing they had in excess, was manpower.
Seeing a real mineroller attached to a soviet tank is news to me.
While making troops run free in a minefield might work for anti-personnel mines, I really doubt that anti-tank mines would be set off as they requires more direct pressure, 300 lbs and up I believe. Thus the need for a mine roller [;)]