Amusing Hobby E-100 Waffentrager

Hi Folks,

Something a bit less technically Challenging now with Amusing hobby’s W-100 Waffentrager.

WoT players will probably be familiar with this beastie as a Tier 10 tank smasher with a 4 or 5 round autoloader depending on the gun mounted. It was removed from the game after players who could not figure out just how to deal with this thing winged and complained until it was removed. The real fact that a skilled player could decimated the opposing team but only with proper support from their own team as the gun shield was paper and it took an excessively long time to reload which was when it was vulnerable.

A lot of players who can’t be bothered to get out and into archives call this a fantasy tank lashed together by Wargaming and in certain respects they are right.

In reality the E-series was being designed by Adler as a takeover from all the vehicles being built for the german military and the idea was to consolidate all the vehicles onto one chassis with different weight classes and types from APC through to SPG. Two, possibly 3 E-100 hulls were under construction and captured by the british. While one was more or less complete and you can find photos around the net:

The second one was quite a way from being complete:

The third one, of which only 1 photo exists in German archives is a mid engine version but was just an empty hull at the time of capture. I have seen the photo but for some reason I was refused permission to make a copy!

With the allies advancing, Adler destroyed much of their design work and only a few concept drawings for the various E-series vehicles exist. No engineering drawings or blueprints made it into allied hands and all the surviving stuff was bundled up and put away out of sight by the allies.

These concept drawings can be seen, but not copied in German archives.

This leads us to this kit. Original concept drawing show the 128mm mounted as a mobile Flak fun with the options of a PAK variant and dual 128 mount on the E-100 chassis. Similar concept drawings for the 88mm on the E-75 chassis and 20, 37 and 57mm? for the E-50 Chassis with either turret or rear mounted options.

As these only existed as a concept drawing then the kits can be called fantasy tanks as no one can be sure what was going to go into production and so with these kits that come out the '46 Heer armour becomes a reality for the modeller. They are certainly popular as it lifts restrctions and inaccuracies over colours and allows the armour modeller to exercise some freedom!

This is what is in the kit!

So! What is this kit exactly? It is a mix and march of the E-100 kit, the 128mm Flak and radar set (without the radar) and a new sprue for the shield and mount. Also included is some etch generic decals (I’ll be replacing those with Archer Dry Transfers) and a metal barrel which replaces one of the 3 barrels included in the kit… plenty choice. There are also some ammo examples too.

I will be replacing the kit tracks with the much beefier (and heavier) Friul E-100 set and the only thing that really bothers me is getting the suspension springs off the sprues in 1 piece… I’ve had issues with this before which led to me scrapping a couple of Amusing hobby builds :x

The plastic is sharp and well detailed and I see no flash at all - but there again I wasn’t looking for it. There is some nice rolls steel texturing on the front upper glacis and this will look good under paint. My choice for this build is a 3 tone European camo job with authentic colours from Vallejo and MRP using RAL 6003 as the base coat. I may, at a later date, build another with a '46 Afrika Korps camo scheme!

I do like the Amusing Hobby kits as they are not really technically demanding and build up nicely with some great and nice sharp detailing and with a careful colour accurate paint job look the part and provide some building fun where accuracy for the concept tanks is not an issue as it is with the current Panther and Tiger kits. They are not overpriced and a nice bit of step away fun and look good in the cabinet!

On with the build!

Watching this. Like you i am a fam of AM kits and i have only built 1. Nice that they have included a metal barrel in this one.

I’ll be watching too!

Good afternoon James, watching to see what you do with this monster.

Harold

Yeah, looking forward to what you do with this beast James!

To be frank I can understand some of the attitude here. There are so many AFVs based on the most flimsy data in World of Tanks it’s kinda easy to jump to the conclusion that anything that wasn’t fielded was made up.

problem is, when you think about some of the designs the German did consider and then look at what they come out with on WoT, its hard to know what is totally made up and what is based on a real idea. I mean, who else would consider a tank weighing 1,000 tons and armed with a turret from a battleship. And then call it a Rat.

Cool td. Yeah, lots of funny ideas. Well, atleast nothing is impossible.

Good points Bish & GA! But there are some like the US T25/2 TD that seem to be almost entirely imaginary. It’s based on a project to build a 90mm gunned TD off the hull of a T23 medium tank. Since the T23 never went past the prototype stage the T25/2 didn’t even appear in a set of blueprints! Basically the WoT guys stuck a M36 turret on a T23 hull! Which I guess is a reasonable idea on how the thing might have looked if built.

The move towards the E- Series was to consolidate manufacturing and to bring more control over resources and to cut down the many types of vehicle used and so the resources needed in the field.

the idea was to build vehicles of different weight classes and applications using the same components on 3 chassis. Up to 50 tons which would include the E-50 medium tanks which would become the new Panther. The next one would be the E75 class and would take over the role of the tiger II and then the E-100 chassis which, with some exceptions would be the super heavy assault vehicles.

We will never know just what would have been built or deployed but we can certainly have fun building them!

It was the Brits who first called tanks “land battleships”, correct?

Just imagine a 1000 tons getting stuck in the mud!

This should be a great build “what if” subjects are always interesting.

James, please correct me if I’m wrong but didn’t the Germans use the Waffentrager AUF E-100 to launch V1 Missiles? Is that not the same chassis design as your model?

I‘m correcting myself… All of the V1 Rockets were launched from ramps.

Thats another what if kit thats been done, Modelcollect if i recall right.

They called them landships. And i think the British did suggest tanks weighing 1,000 tons, that would have been fun on the western front.

Model collect have done a lot of “what if” kits and the V1 on a mobile chassis would not have been as the V1 needed a longish ramp and rocket assist to get the airborne velocity needed for flight.

saying that, if the boost assist was improved to give the necessary forward speed beyond the mobile launcher then on the E-100 chassis then it might be possible.

model collect do them in 1/72 which I don’t normally dip into but they have an interesting “what if” range. If they were 1/35 I would be all over them!

Adler, the design bereau had concept drawings for a considerable amount of vehicles on the 3 chassis system. All shared the same basic suspension components that were bolt on affairs which afforded easy field replacement.

The E-50 and 75 vehicles would have shared the same chassis size which was the Tiger II in size and essence with different suspension/wheel arrangement. Most of the internals would have been the Tiger II components with a different engine for the two classes - probably uprated or redesigned Maybach engines for the engine compartment which would have seen much better handling and performance with supercharging being added.

The initial E-50 Standard Panzer would have sported a schmallturm with an 88mm L/71 with a redesigned breech and recoil system that would have seen the ammunition looking shorter but a fatter case with the same propellant as the standard round. The “Ausf. M” concept would have sported a turret very similar to the Tiger II with a 105mm main gun with no muzzle brake.

The E-75 Standard Panzer would have been the same as the Tiger II with a uprated engine and being able to mount either the 105mm or a breech and recoil redesigned 128mm with a muzzle brake like we see in WoT or Amusing Hobby’s Lowe/VK kits.

I do like these kits as they do give the modeller freedom of expression without the anoraks and Rivet counters sticking their heads above the sandbags and sniping away.

when I build a Panzer IV, Panther variant, Tiger I or Tiger II and these idiots start having a go, my reaction is:

I have the real things with a few in FULL operating order. Do not tell me what is wrong with my builds!

The paint scheme on this will be a European one and I am basing it on the last change of paint orders which saw the base coat changed from RAL 7028 to Green RAL 6003.

The 7028 colour I will be using is chipset accurate and much darker than most people believe and is NOT yellow! This comes from MRP in Slovakia or Slovenia - don’t know which and has been verified by my OEM paint supplier in Germany who did the original paints for the panzers etc. From their own records and original chipsets.

Let’s have some fun!

Lot of interesting info on the E-50/E-100. Makes you wonder what could of happened if say these were in full production say late 43/early 44 what would the eastern front have looked like then?

Yeah, one of the things I really enjoyed about my E-100 build is playing around with the octopus scheme. Like painting a dinosaur nobody can totally rule out what you do as long as you don’t go totally berserk (aka hot pink with violet poka dots etc).

Just spat my toast across the kitchen And spilt my coffee… Please don’t do that!

A start has been made.

The lower hull has been built up and the base coat applied. Next are all the suspension pieces.

As with these exterior only kits the build is quite quick. The painting slows you down. It would be easy to build the hull in 1 day but I am going to do a complete detailed paint job on this so I have to slow down and let the paint and primer cure!

I have been asked to do a comparison between the Friul and the kit tracks.

Before I start, the kit tracks are two part affairs and I have to report that one part is MIA. Either it had been missed out of the kit and I missed it when I photographed the kit, or I took it out, forgot to photograph it and put it somewhere safe and forgot where I put it!

This does mean that half the tracks can’t be compared, but still I think that the photos and what I have to say stands firm.

The E-100 tracks were 1 metre in width (1000mm) and had to provide the ground support and movement of this beast and so were thich and bulky. They were made out of a casting mix of magnesium and steel and so in the photos that show them they are quite dark.

This is the kit track that I have to hand. It is the link between the two treads. It is correct size for 1/35 but is very thin and the details are sharp


In the Friul set, there are instructions

Wire to make the pins

lots of bits in 4 bags


Here’s the main track tread. This is scale correct for the original track width and is very beefy with sharp detail. It does match exactly the photos of the original tracks. I can’t comment on the kit ones as they are the ones that are MIA.


A jig in 3 pieces that you glue together


Friul have this correct. It is the link section and it is in 3 pieces.


When put against the Kit part you can see that the Friul one is much sturdier than the kit.

Dry fit

One of the ends for the link tread has holes in for the pins, the other end os blanked off so the pin can’t slide throuogh and that’s the one that goes on the outside when the tracks are attached. The treads are not handed.

Considering the size of the vehicle etc, the Friul ones provide a much better platform for the vehicle adding to the size of the thing and also with the weight of the white metal tracks will hang right with no manipulation or anything. The full track run would have been a couple of tons at least and the Friul ones will show that with ease! Half the kit ones are just too thin!

James

Nice start!

Those track links look really cool. On my Trumpeter E-100 I was lucky enough to have the huge skirts so I wimped out and just used the ‘rubber band’ tracks.

PS: Oh sorry about the coffee and toast… [:$]