Alfa Romeo 8c 2600 Scuderia Ferrari, 1/8 scale...

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Time ago a member of the club I belong gave to me a old model kit, about a 1/8 Pocher Alfa Romeo 8C 2600 Mille Miglia, Scuderia Ferrari. The kit was already started, and some parts are missing, also there are some spare parts like the Alfa Romeo 8C Touring body. I found some parts on ebay :cry: , but still not enough.

Here the kit before the deconstruction and a bath… :slight_smile:

One of the problem was the spoke wheels, who build them used a lot of glue (I think tube glue) instead to use the spoke wheels nipples, that don’t require glue. So I was able to save the spoke but the other parts not. :frowning: Except the metal part… :slight_smile:

Thanks to a guy in another forum I was able to find new wheels parts…

After thinking and thinking, I decide to try to build those wheels… It is king of difficult I need to admit, above all the instructions are not very helpful… 3 different spoke were used for make one wheels… But when you get it, it is kind of easy… :slight_smile:

Here the different spokes, and nipples… 60 Nipples and 60 spokes for each wheels…

For help the assemble there is this piece.

And now the wheels… :slight_smile:


And finally the wheels done… Need only a air valve… Total part used 142!!! :o :o :slight_smile:

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I forgot a little story about the 1/1 Alfa Romeo Scuderia Ferrari…

In 1933 Enzo Ferrari bought some Alfa Romeo 8C 2300, because the Alfa Romeo toke a break from the race, and sold some of the cars.
The Scuderia Ferrari reshaped the engine for have more HP from 165 to 178, so also the liter, from 2300 to 2600.
In 1934 this car won the 8th Mille Miglia with the driver Varzi. Also won some other important races, and started the Ferrari cars… :)

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Some more pics…
After a bad experience, were I bought some parts online that were missing in this kit, but didn’t showed up nothing. :frowning: Thanks God, I was able to receive a refund (through Paypal)… At least the money came back… :slight_smile:
After contacting half world, for find parts, I was able to find some, some I’m still looking for others… But I hope with time and patience I will be able to find all… :slight_smile:

The engine was missing all the internal parts, not that matter too much, because when it is done you can’t see inside… But I like to build it with them inside, and I was lucky to find pistons, rod etc., in Italy… :slight_smile:

Here the first part, I used grease on them just for help a free movement… Probably was not necessary… But who knows… :slight_smile:

Here on the motor, with the metal ring.

There are some error on the engine mount, like in this side, it was square, but it is supposed to have a shape like in pics, because there will go the steering box. Also I build the steering box mount
and changed the position of the air intake mount.

On the engine mount, there are some holes, for cable and some pipe, but they are missing on the engine.

The gray round part is the supercharger’s support, that shoud have the same shape of the engine mouunts.

Here a view about the engine with some work done… :slight_smile: The top and bottom are covered for protect the internal parts for the paint.

For help the work on it, and carry it, I build a fantasy engine stand. :slight_smile:

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Te engine with head and oil pan. Also I made all the gasket. :slight_smile:

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Looking good Brizio. [t$t] Keep up the good work and keep posting.

Jim [cptn]

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Thanks Jim… This will be a long term work… :slight_smile:

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Hello Brizio,

This is the first time I am posting to this forum. I thought you might be interested in a website that is dedicated entirely to Pocher cars and they have some incredible after market and replacement parts for all things Pocher. If you were not aware of this site, I hope this will help in possibly replacing some of your missing pieces or adding more detail. The site is http://www.modelmotorcars.com/

I have a Alfa Romeo 8C 2300 Monza that I have yet to complete and has sat dormant for almost 30 years. One of these days, I will resume work on it.

Good luck on your build and I look forward to following your progress.

Regards,

David

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Thank you David! And welcome to the site neighbor!!! I’m from Portland! :slight_smile:

Yes I know Marvin’s site :slight_smile: If you look on their museum you’ll find the pics of my engine. :slight_smile: They have great stuff for those Pocher!

Are you going to the Billetproof meeting a the end of this month? My club organize a contest there. :slight_smile:

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Brizio,

Haven’t heard about Billetproof. Can you fill me in?

Every so often about once a year I make it down to Portland and visit Bridgetown Hobbies.

I was focusing most of my modeling on the Tamiya 1/12th scale Formula 1 cars but have recently completed several 1/32 scale WWII warbirds from Trumpeter and currently working on the F8F-1 Bearcat.

How about you? Are you primarily modeling Pocher kits? There is so much I want to do to my 8C 2300 Monza but the detail parts are quite expensive so I just leave it untouched for now.

David

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About Billetproof doesn’t need preregistration, here (sabanw.org)you can find all the info about it, it’s the saba web site, model club I belong and that organize this event.

Also you can find all the pics from the last edition, this is only the second year for this contest. If I remember correctly, you need to be there at 11:00AM, and finish at 03:00PM. I will probably be there around 10:30, because there are a lot of 1/1 cars to look at! :slight_smile:

I usually build 1/24 or small scale, and usually Jeep. I always wanted to build a Pocher kit, so I was looking into it. Until this guy gave me this kit. :slight_smile: So I toke the challenge to building and modify it. There are a lot to do! The kit has some errors… So if you want build it straight out of the box, it’s ok, but if you are like me you want more… There is more work involved… :slight_smile: I know if you want build the Alfa (or any Pocher cars) with right parts, and detail, those are pretty expensive. But worth every penny! I just got on the mail today some parts…

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New progress…

I made an adjustment of the oil pump, now looks better…

And this is the new scratch build alternator…

Thank you for looking!

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Yep, it is a problem, fortunately, here it is about model cars, that doesn’t require gas… :slight_smile:

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Here some upgrade parts, the top are Pocher and came with the kit. The bottom are ModelMotorcars…

The tire valve…

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You have a big job ahead of you, and I admire your efforts. I have built 3 of those Pocher models over the years and they drove me crazy, even with all the original parts in a sealed box!

Here is the 8C2300 which I finished last year after it sat unopened on my shelf for over 30 years!

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Thank you Cadet Chuck!

I know it is a lot of work, it is a big challenge, but sometime we need to be little crazy… :slight_smile:

Very nice your model! I would prefer having a Monza than the Mille Miglia, I prefer it’s shape… :slight_smile:

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Next week I hope to start to assemble some parts on the chassis… So Before do that, I built a chassis stand. :slight_smile:

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After many frustrating hours of testing your patience, it will look something like this:

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I hope so… Today I ordered the new chassis support, so end of this week beginning of next I will be able to paint the chassis… :slight_smile:

I need also to choose a nice color for it… :slight_smile:

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I only painted a few details on mine, such as the dashboard, floor, seat cushions and brake drums. Looks good and saved a lot of work.

Good luck and have fun with your project!