Please post any pics of the interiors of your creations, specifically the seats. I need some creative Ideas.[banghead][?][?]
Check out the work here: http://www.finescale.com/fsm/community/forum/topic.asp?page=10&TOPIC_ID=32295. This was done by one member of the Blacksheep Gruop Build. You can find much more like this around the Group Build pages and the Aircraft pages as well. It’ll take some digging around but you should be able to come up with lots of ideas. Another site is: www.aircraftresourcecenter.com Hope this helps.[:)] Oh, and [#welcome]to the Forum!
Blackbox seats for my Trumpeter F-105G. I did spray them with clear flat after these photos were taken so they aren’t near as glossy as the image indicates.
Another view
One of two MB HK-7 seats for my Tamiya F-4E
Another view
Yet another view
Yep, another one
And the last one
Cutting Edge ACESII seat for my Trumpeter A-10
Another view
And yet one more
I will see what I have to show. Welcome to the Forum and where in Montana are you? I am in Bozeman.
MusicCity.
Which kit is the MB MK-7 seats? The parachute pack looks way too big. The sholder harness riser straps are too long. They should only be about 1/4 the length and tacked back against the parachute pack and inertia reel straps. They are held in place by an elastic cord connected to the lower part of the parachute pack. Just an observation from over twenty years on the F-4 series aircraft. The rest of the seat looks great. Excellent job on the lower eject handle. I also like the other seats you have built.
I’m in Montana [oops] sorry, I meant to say BIllings. What do you guys use to make the belts and everything else.
I use strips of masking tape for the belts and dabs of silver paint to represent the buckles. They look almost like the real thing and best of all, it’s cheap! For things like ejection seat pull rings, I use very fine copper wire.
The super detailed seats that you see here on the forum can also be resin seats, those have much more detail then regular plastic.
Aftermarket items such as photo etch (PE), resin and whit metal are often used to make/enhance seats.
Berny, you know I always respect and appreciate your opinion. The seats are from Tamiya and the detail is from Eduard. It’s too late to fix them now though, those pix were taken last year before they went in the cockpit and I’m not digging them out [:p] I’m planning to build another F-4 later this year so it will get fixed on that one.
Montana, welcome to the forum. You’ll find some very helpful people here and a world of great information.
I hope you didn’t take it the wrong way. Very good job on all the seats. Excellent detail and I like the way the upper and lower eject handles are painted. The seats from Tamiya just don’t look right with the over size parachute pack that large. I know most of the AM seats are excellent.
Where do you get aftermarket things like that?
AM seats can be purchased through Squadron Com. They carry Black Box and Verlinden, which is the most popular. You LHS may also carry them or can order them for you.
The AM seats are usually very detailed and better than the kit supplied seat. They are cast in resin and require care when working with them.
Don’t always go with the instructions that come with the seats. Go on line and check the specific seat you are modeling as it will save you trouble later.
Heres the seat for my Airfix 1:72 Lancaster. I’m just waiting for some Airwaves harnesess brfore I paint it.
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Here’s one I knocked up for my 1/32nd Mossie recently. Unpainted as yet.
This is the Black Box resin seat for the 1/48 F-105. Painted, but no other mods.
This is the kit seat modified to be closer to the real thing. Not as good as the resin seat, but if you don’t want to invest the extra money in AM parts, this is an improvement over the stock part. The F-105 seat used the parachute the pilot had strapped to his back for a back rest. I removed the seat back rest, added a plain back, then seat belts from masking tape and cut out the openings in the back of the headrest. The lower belts still need to be painted.
Darwin, O.F. [alien]
Dude! that stuff is expensive. I’m just a kid![BH] 40 horses for a resin cockpit! Pretty cool, though. I want to get the super detail afterburners[:p][:0]
I did this with milliput and wire
Nice job Skii [;)]
Yep, aftermarket can ben very expensive. But, as shown here, there are techniques to enhance the seat that come the kit.
Seatbelts, made with tape or lead (from wine bottles), are ease to make.
Fine metal wire isn’t expensive, you can find it in old electric aplliances/equipment (I can’t find the right word)
Plastic card can be bought, but old credit cards, plastic from ice containers, plastic cups etc. can also be used.
Enhancing your kit seat doesn’t have to cost anything.
Last, but very important, is the painting, use washes for shadows and dry brushing for highlights.
You can buy al the aftermarket stuff in the world, but if your painting is bad, it will still look bad. On the other hand, a (modified) seat from a kit can look very nice when you paint it nice.