AH-56A

Ok guys, I’m asking for your help…we need a 48th scale AH-56A. I know 35th is probably too much to hope for, but come on, at least lets push for a 48th kit! For too long, we’ve chased after the elusive Aurora kit, even though it is tiny and somewhat inaccurate! We need a big kit of this helicopter, a NEW kit! A kit that will give us a perfect miniature copy of this magnificent machine!

I’ve got the data, lets get this kit made!

Who’s with me?! CHARRRRRGE!!!

(ok… too many hours under fluorescent lights staring at photos… I’m ok now…)

1/35 would be killer… But a good 1/48 rendition would be out standing also. I’ve only seen it “live” once, and it was huge machine, a 1/35 kit of this thing would be massive.

Not until I get my HH52A in 1/48th Jon.
(Even 1/72 would be okay).
But if you think I could help, I’d sign the petition.

Don

Lead the way Brother Jon. I’m right behind you.

I’m with ya too, Jon. You know I will have an outstanding reference if a kit comes out of this thing[;)]!

Keith

Ok guys, I’ve emailed Revell Germany and CollectAire so far. I’m determined. Gonna see what I can do about contacting Hasegawa, Tamiya and Trumpeter next…

Give us a link, Jon, I’m with you, even though I built that old Aurora kit years ago

Count me in … and Jonny, get your camera and take some walk around shots to make your case to the industry execs. Tell them you got a guy who’ll do some killer box art … I am that man!

Hi guys!!!

I 'm with you on this project!! Every time I think of this awsome helo, I am filled with dissgust with our goverment for canceling this project!![:(!]

Just think of the edge our troops could have had in Nam if these awsome birds were in the skies in great numbers!! The outcome could have been much differant if they had!! I would love to see Lockheed revive this whole prodject!!! Can you imagine how much more awsome this bird would be with the technoligy we have today?? This thing could very well send the good ol Apache into early retirement!! Imagine an AH-56D Longbow cheyenne with gadgets all over the fuselage and the mast mounted dome on top of the rotor!!! Yes!! It is and old 60’s era machine but I think that it was so far ahead of its time then that it still has merrit today!! Just take a moment and think of the machine the Cheyenne could be with todays technoligy!!!

On the miniature scale I would deffinatly like someone do a nice big scale kit of it. You guys have my vote!! By all means, Procede forword!!

Mark[:)]

Ok guys, got some news.

I got a reply from Revell Germany and they’ve forwarded my request on to their development department. So, I guess that means… start bombarding them with emails! I tried to contact straight Revellogram, but their website is impossible to find any contact information on. So, our foot’s in the door.

Marke,

I’d love to have seen operational Cheyennes too, but there were definite issues with the bird. Having spoken to a few veterans involved with the program now, I’ve gained a little insight into it. Lockheed and the Army kept pushing for more speed, which increased vibration and ended up causing a fatal crash which was a major factor in killing the program. Usually not a good thing when your rotor vibrates so much that it comes down through the cockpit.

As far as seeing them in Vietnam and the outcome being different, I think there are a few Snake pilots on this forum who’d disagree. Better than the Apache? Nah, faster, yes, but not better. The Apache took a lot of the Cheyenne’s technology and improved on it. As was said in a discussion I had the other day “there is a lot of Cheyenne DNA present in the Apache”. It was a great machine, and I’d certainly love to see one fly, but its day has come and gone.

That being said, the Cheyenne did a great deal for the Attack community. Most importantly, the AAFSS project established Attack helicopter doctrine that was used effectively in Vietnam and set the foundation for the armed helicopter.

The Cheyenne is to the Apache what the MBT70 is to the Abrams tank.

I have the Aurora Model. it is kinda off target but i like it. small too…

Count me in Jon. Did you get the contact info from the web site?

Mac

Ya know, thats true, to a degree. My dad worked on a private program to actually revise the AH-56 about 5 years ago and I learned more about the history of it than I would reading about it. And apparently, what I’ve heard from multiple people that worked on the original project was that the crashes didnt have as much as an effect on the program’s termination as people think. It was more of the Army’s impatience and need that killed it. Knowing what I know now, I think the Apache would have never been thought of had the Cheyenne gone operational.

Oh and back to the topic at hand, I would absolutly love for a 1/48 model be made, but not by Revell.I would rather a company like Academy or Tamiya get its hands on it because I trust them more with producing an accurate and detailed model for a fair price.

Whiskey,

You’re absolutely right! The crash that killed Dave Biel was in 1969, the project wasn’t axed until August of 72. I’ll have to look up the date of the second “crash”. (Can you really call a wind tunnel mishap a crash?) The problem is, we keep coming up with great ideas that are a little too ahead of their time and we’re not willing to wait for them, either due to immediate need or sheer impatience. One of the things that I realized about the Comanche program that I don’t think anyone’s mentioned…

It has a rigid rotor!

Sigh, dont even get me started on the Comanche lol. I have a personal dispute with the Army when it comes to that.

I hear ya! Initially I was for the cancellation, thinking it would free up a lot of money to upgrade the existing fleet and get us attrition replacement aircraft. While that IS happening, I think the Comanche would have given us a significant edge in today’s combat environment, regardless of any “stealth” characteristics.

Grant and I are coming up with a “Comanche Light”, all the performance at 1/3 the cost. Stay tuned!

Oh great, no pressure there… Thanks Jon! [;)]

(You realize that Comanche guy on here’s gonna kick our butts if we screw this up don’t you?)

Fate of the Cheyenne airframes

list is of year 2000

John,

FANTASTIC! The list I have is only accurate up until 1993, so this list gives a great deal more information than what I’ve got. We couldn’t figure out whether there were five or six airframes left. This confirms my hunch that there are, in fact, six left (seven if you count the mockup)!

Grant,

[:D] Be cool, buddy, we’ve got this.