Academy Warrior mcv

hey guys,
Today on my lunch break i picked up this from the toy shop nextdoor to my work anyhow this is my 1st venture into modern armour and i was wondering has anyone built this kit yet and if so is there any trouble areas
(like the new dragon tiger) thats anither story anyhow back to the warrior if anyone could give me any heads up on this kit that would be great and thanks again guys

Az[8]

Is it the old one or the new kit
theres a review of the new kit here http://www.perthmilitarymodelling.com/reviews/vehicles/academy/acd13201.htm

it’s the old one

its still a good kit, they just added a new spru to the rebox
see if Academy would send spru K out to you?

your kiddin right we get jack all here in oz we r flat out getting cavalier zimmerit considering that its made here but all of it goes to the states

but i’ll see it i can send academy a email or something and see what it bring

thanks caveman i was considering making the id panel coz there was a artical on a bradley in a old finescale from last year and a guy make some stuff and it does look hard, but i’ll see what happens thankscaptain caveman

The old kit is the same as the new, except the new has a few additional pieces, as outlined in the review above. Just contact Academy customer support. I’m sure they’ll send you the new sprue without any problems.

you could have a look at the Tamiya Modern US equipment set 35266
that has the id panels

is it that bad getting stuf in Oz, were thinking of escaping over there to Perth

im in queensland yeah for getting the good aftermarket stuff like eduard and the like.
well if u come to perth you should bring a ship load of aftermarket stuff to oz coz ud make a huge amount of cash, i’ll try academy in the morning

thanks guys

PG Where in cane toad county do you live, I live in Brisbane. If you want AM stuff try David Hay at Firestorm.

http://firestorm1.topcities.com/mainframe.htm

He carries some stuff like Jordio Rubio, Legend Productions, etc but orders in any Aber, TMD, etc that you want and soon will be carrying Voyager and Lion Roar PE. He will get Eduard as a special order for you too.

As to the Warrior, I posted some info and a couple of in progress pics about a month back on this thread:
http://www.finescale.com/fsm/community/forum/topic.asp?page=-1&TOPIC_ID=44262&REPLY_ID=455916#455916

The new kit has the additional sprue for a few bits to upgrade to a Bosnia and beyond Warrior and a replacement front armour section, as the original is way out of proportion, but is mostly stowage including the side turret bins seen on only a few GW1 Warriors. However, the new front armour is still wrong.

It depends on which version you want to do as to how much work you need to do. Adding the armour requires more corrections. Use the pics in the other thread as a guide for the following:

General build info:

  • My Warrior suffered from bad sink marks and ill fit around the rear hull, the stowage boxes and the top rear deck hatches did not meet properly requiring a fillet of styrene.

  • The sledge hammer and mattock handles are abysmal, get replacements from Academy’s WW2 Allied and German accesories set (good for other stuff like ammo crates, ammo, etc that you will use down the track).

  • The turret basket is too high and the top edge sits over the top of the turret. Don’t be tempted to lower it, or the turret will foul on the rear episcope mounts. You need to trim about 2-3 mm off the top of each vertical strut ,and have fun getting the three (now 6)basket sections to join right. The mesh screen is woven but not heat sealed so the threads move - a bummer if you are not careful cutting it and handling it. My piece was poorly made and the ‘holes’ in the mesh were so uneven so I ended up fabricating a whole replacement part from brass mesh, rod and styrene strip.

  • The side stowage bin mesh and the turret mesh have different size openings, so Academy’s one size fits all is wrong. Not a prob if you use the side armour as the mesh is covered.

  • The smoke discharger relay box and wiring needs to be added to both sides.

  • The turret mantlet and front section, and the intake part on the drivers side of the hull just in front of the turret (the part with 4 bolt heads) and the transmission housings all needs to have cast texture added. The vertical face of the intake needs to be drilled out and a piece of mesh added, unless you plan on having the turret turned so the gun goes over that area - then it will be hidden.

  • The transmission housings that fit on the front hull are too wide. Trim the end off so that the bevel is only 1 mm past the shroud. Don’t worry that it leaves a huge rectangular gap on the front hull, the pieces fit so poorly that you needed to fill around the untrimmed part anyway.

  • The engine intake screeens need mesh added and there are 2 canvas covers that fit across these when the vehicle is parked. When the vehicle is in use, the covers are rolled up and secured next to the intakes.

  • The head light brush guards have attachment points unlike the real warrior. Trim right down the wire ‘legs’ then trim the legs off the bottom so that a rectangle of 20 thou styrene can be added without raising the overall height of the piece. Add bolt heads.

-The head light relay boxes and horn are not included in the kit. These can be made from styrene

Armoured Warrior info:
-The front armour is too narrow, partially due to the the front transmission housings being way too wide, and the top piece of the frontal armour is too wide and actually sits over the engine access hatch, which is obviously wrong. I scratchbuilt a replacement.

  • The side armour plates are moulded as one piece, whereas the real warrior thas 3 seperate sections on the drivers side. It looks much better if you cut out the styrene in the large “gaps” down the side and fill the resulting holes down the plate edges. Do this before you attach the piece that goes behind the plates as the plates actually hang off the plate as it is attached to the hull first.

-The side armour needs to have the top and bottom scribed to show the plates are separate pieces. Remember the top of the armour has cover strips, so only scribe where the cover strips join.

  • The pins for locating the side armour plates are in the wrong place. The armour needs to be attached a lot further forward so trim them off and fill the holes in the hull.

-When locating the side armour, use “unused part C23?” in front of the two exhaust screens on the off side. This was actually bolted in place of the spare track link and was a mount for the front of the armour. That will help you line the armour correctly. Then use the gap at the back as a guide for fitting the drivers side plates. The “U” shaped piece with the locating pins to attach to the back of the drivers side armour plate is wrong as the tell you to attach it backwards. The pins need to be removed and the whole part thinned. The two bolt heads on top are actually the bolt heads for the spare track fittings, the bracket was simply bolted to that. You need to add a couple of rectangular bits of styrene to the braket under the bolt heads and then attach them to the hull where the track link goes.

  • The side tool box was replaced when the armour was fitted. The kit does not provide the new tool box. It is the same size as the other one, but does not have the impressed X like the kit one, and the hinges are on the opposite side (you can’t unlatch the old box as the armour is in the way of lifting the latch up). The old tool box was fitted to the front armour or the side of the hull in front of the engine exhaust screens on most GW1 Warriors.

  • the front and rear Fire Extinguishers were not fitted to GW1 warriors, so fill those locating pin holes.

Don Busack has put some lovely walkaround pics up on Prime Portal back on July 21(where were you a few months ago when I needed you Don). They are not of an up armoured one, but are a perfect reference for a lot of the detail anyway. Go to this page, scroll down to the 21 July update and then click on the warrior links to go to the different sections:

http://www.primeportal.net/whats_new.htm

Sounds like a lot of work, but it is not that hard in the end. Give it a go. Good Luck.

Hey Petbat-great info. But that’s a book not a post. :wink:

hey petbat im on the northside of brisbane

Trowlfazz. That is the Readers Digest version, it could be longer[:D]

I live southside, near the Logan Hyperdome.

Depending on how far north of Brissie you are, you might be interested in visiting my club - AMMS - if you are in the area. Armour only builders, we get together first Saturday of each month at the Loganlea Community Centre. First visit is free, after that it is $5 to cover insurance, centre hire and gets you a raffle ticket in the monthly raffle which is usually a choice of 5-6 1/35th scale armour kits. We have a few guys that travel fair distances - Mitchelton from the north and the Gold Coast even - but the cost of fuel is getting ridiculous. If you are interested here is a link to our site, the ‘about us’ link will get you locale details. If nothing else, you can look over the gallery of models, some of our guys are quite good:

http://www.ammsbrisbane.com/index.htm