Working on a Marder III and want to get the right colors for ammo which will go in the ammo bins. Can anyone tell me the correct finishes for the different types of 7.62 cm ammo? I have searched for images but have not found any color pictures.
Thanks.
Hello Recon,
I don’t, but you may be able to get the answer from FSM member “Highlander242”. You’ll be able to find him in the “Figure Forum”. Look for a cartoon version of the Joker as his avatar and shoot him a PM. He is very knowledgeable when it comes to colors and painting. Good luck Recon.
Hunter
HE = Olive green or Field grey with the very tip being steel.
AP = Black.
Those are really the only 2 you will need. The majority wpuld be AP rounds.
Your search mya not have been helped if you were looking for 7.62cm ammo. I know you said Marder III, but should that be II.
Thanks everyone for the info. Couldn’t tell from the black & white photos what I should use.
Bish: The Tamiya box says Sd.Kfz.139 7.62cm PaK36(r), Marder III. That’s what I was going by but wouldn’t be the first time a box was labeled wrong.
Ok, i know which one you mean. The 7.62cm weapon was a Russian gun captured by the Germans and rechambered to use German 7.5cm PaK 40 ammunition.
Those colours apply to all German amunition so you can use those for anything else.
So the PaK 36(r) refered to the gun itself and not to the ammo used? Is that why I had trouble finding Pak 36(r) ammo in the searches?
Yep, thats why. The (r) refers to it being a Russian gun. The Germans added these letters to indicate captured equipment thay used.
Bish,
It’s very clear after reading this post and many of your other’s in the past week that you are a man well versed and knowledgeable. I know I will learn a lot from you and others over time. My father was right about you.
Thanks Hunter. We all have our specialities and we all learn from each other. Ask me somthing about modern US aircraft and i am lost.
And it does help to have a decent sized libary on your choosen subject as i always like to double check anything before passing it on.
Bish,
I am glad you stated that, I purchased some books this weekend from a local book store on German and Allied aircraft, armour and warships. I also got a couple that are atlas books outlining the dates and locations of WWII through the Korean war. These books have detailed maps and locations of every event of these wars. The books are very detailed with complete information and photos.
I have had a handful of great conversations with Steve (Modelcrazy)a very great and humble man, and I have found that I am already addicted to modelling without even building a model yet because of the research asspect. I believe that is why modelers are a different breed…it’s the research of a certain battle our aircraft and so on that keeps you in this hobby…plus the satisfaction of building the item you researched. I hope to learn from you and hope you have time to review my first build…coming very soon (laughing)
Hello hunter welcome to modeling looking foreword to admiring your work.
The research part is big part of the hobby for me also. there are some hobbyists on here that are true historians willing to share there knowledge.
Hunter, i think the research is a big part of it for a lot of us. For me, modelling is an extension to my interst in military history. And where our own knowledge or material may be lacking, we all know we can turn to the forum. Someone some where will have the answers. And sound slike your off to a great start. And i will definatly be looking out for your first build, and i guarentee it will be better than you think it is.
I doubt you would actually see the ammo in the rack. On the initial Marder III, the ammo went “head first” into the racks, with only the end of the shell exposed. In turn, the racks had covers, which have been omitted from the kit.
I think the only time you would see the ammo would be when the crew was re-loading the racks or when a round was extracted to load the gun.
On later variants of the Marder III, (ausf.H & M) the rounds were stored upright in tubes with the heads partially exposed.
Phil: I was wondering about that point. The kit shows the rounds head first, but I thought this must not be right because the later models show the tips of the shells sticking out of the racks. I haven’t found interior pics of this model type that clearly show the racks with shells or covers. Thanks for the clarification. As always, if in doubt ask the forum.
Check out wbill76’s build, he used AM ammo bins and covers.
http://cs.finescale.com/fsm/modeling_subjects/f/3/t/109079.aspx?page=3
I didn’t realise that on the early Marder. I have built the Tamiya III Ausf M and was thinking along those lines. Thanks for that info Phil.
Great, Phil. I just now found some critical errors on my part from wbill76’s article that I need to think over on how to correct. Oh well, my attitude has always been worst case I have to tell the wife I need another kit. Since she does quilting, I can usually get away with it. Probably be able to build the covers from sheet styrene. Thanks for the link.