assuming some Tiger1s were had it brushed on, which is the likely direction the whitewash was applied, horizontal or vertical? picked up tamiyas 1:48 early E and want it as early as possible, but not right outta the factory. thx
edit: these http://tiger1.info/EN/TAM32504EngineHatchLegs.html were removed for a more accurate version, along with the engine deck hatch “handles” which will be replaced with wire
AFAIK the crew would apply the camo in whatever way is easiest for them. I would recomend using a small round brush and painting it on randomly.
But thats just me. I could be horribly wrong.
Using mops, brooms, rags, branches and anything that was available. I wouldn’t be too particular about being uniform.
works for me, then. thx
Just imagine yourself as a cold tanker, wanting to get the job done as quickly as possible and wanting to retun to the comparitively warm protection of your tank. It will be thorough to help isure your survival, but it wont be pretty. If you do an image search, you will see that almost all winter whitewash finishes are quite scruffy.
Stikpusher makes a great point which I’ve mentioned before when it comes to the 80 foot long snaking camo lines on some models. You gotta remember that a 1/35 scale person supposedly painted the darn things – with air hose in tow, he DIDN’T climb over the darn tank just to make it look pretty. When I see it in models, I call it the “hand of god” style of airbrushing. Easy for us to do it – impractical for a busy soldier to do it.
i should add that this is 1:48, and i’ve found a few pix where it seemed to have been done haphazardly, but not quite so, yanno?
True, but the average modeler tends to do a near perfect coverage as opposed to a more correct haphhazard approach. Do you think a correctly painted one would win over a uniformally AB’d version at a contest?
yanno, something tells me the perfect winter camo would win out over something that was meant to be, and looked, authentic. it’s like the “too much weathering” thing all over again[2c]
exactly sir… accuracy vs artistry. Pick your side and go for it. In the end, it is you who you are building for (unless it’s for a contest…[swg])
even for a contest, i’ld want it to be accurate rather than pretty
In that case your best bet is to research whatever particular subject you intend to build and recreate waht you can find in photographs. Some subjects are wel documented, most are not. But in my mind, the advice given here will give you an accurate scale whitewash scheme.
this Tiger has been assigned to sPzAbt 503 #332 as seem in a previous pic somewhere here. not lookin to recreate it bogged down, but would anyone know if this particular Tiger was whitewashed? the site the aforementioned pic i found doesn’t seem to have aything like that.
I saw the judges at a contest once go absolutely bug f’n nutts over the “accuracy” of a paint job. Seems the modeler painted his PzIII dk yellow, then ever so carefully, with what had to be a small flat brush, “flecked” green onto the surface. Looked just like a 1/35th scale p’d off tanker used a 4" brush to jab and slash the camo on. Accuracy heck, it was IMHO perfect.
They didn’t “get” it. Now the winner was good, but sumpin’ about that perfect airbrush paint work just didn’t look right next to that PzIII. U know what I mean?
I haven’t researched the big kitty yet but the pics I’ve seen don’t show white wash.
332 is at the bottom, and there are a coupla whitewashed there as well, plus some in the other galleries, i think http://www.alanhamby.com/gallery4.shtml
can’t have a tank that’s supposed to have seen action look likt it just rolled outta the factory. whoever judged that one needs to see an optomitrist
read somewhere that afv club had 1:48 tracks for the Tiger1. anyone know if their any good, and if they’ld fit tamiya? thx
so, other things… the smoke dischargers, where does the wiring enter the turret and if it’s a single wire for 3, or one for each tube? thx
The major problem with many judges is that they’re neither veterans nor military historians… I’ve run into it time and time again… You almost HAVE to have reference material with ya to convince some of them, even then, they’ll argue with ya…
Another way to beat them at their game is to do a diorama of the vehicle getting its winter coat… This one’s from Shepard Paine, a Monogram T-34 Calliope, “Screamin’ Mimi”… It shows the tankers using brushes and mops to apply the whitewash, and there’s nothin’ neat about it… It’s cold, there’s a battle going on, and those tankers gotta “get 'er done”! Can’t be screwin’ around with spray-guns and masking…
Anyway, if ya show the crew doing it that way, there ain’t much a judge can say, knowwhutImean?
German tank crews did have spray equipment and compressors available, some tanks had air compressors installed… But the winter camo would have to applied during certain times and temperature ranges… No water-soluable paint is gonna work at 30 F, ya know…
I dont enter contests so i aint worried about what judges think, but so far i have avoided doing a scruffy camo job because i think it will end up looking like a 5 year old did it. But, i think i will doit one of these days as there were vehicles that looked like that. hang the judges, if your hapy, thats all that counts.
Hans, i could be wrong, but i dont think thats a T-34. [:-^]
Tiger 332 of sPzAbt. 503 was KOed on January 27th, 1944 near the town of Otscheretnja, SW of Kiev, by friendly fire from a Panther of 1st SS Panzer LSSAH. Divisional photos of the time period show scruffy, badly worn whitewash and a thin layer of snow on the ground, alas, no photos of 332 at the time.
Boy, how much of a b-kicking would you get for fragging a Tiger?