Anyone who has studied the ship and assembled the Revell kit knows that the hull in this model just isn’t right. It’s too narrow for it’s length, because the torpedo blisters aren’t right, and it’s concave back aft near the shafts where it should be slightly convex. Then, of course there are the molded in lines and paravanes, then the struts only have one leg and are not long enough . . . So, while I’m building a 1939 version of ARIZONA, I’m going to try to fix some of those hull issues. I expect that this should be educational, especially since I have not been doing modeling for some time. We shall see.
This area of the hull is concave and needs to be built up so I’m inserting a filler piece and then Bondo’ing in the gaps.
After making a paper template, I cut out two inserts from .030 thick plain styrene and glued them in. After they dried, I used Bondo filler to take care of the gaps and then sanded. Voila!
After a bunch of the other work is done, I’ll do a final finish with filler to smooth everything up. NEXT; the torpedo blisters!
Hi,
Looks interesting. Can’t wait to see how it all turns out.
Pat
HooYah Deep Sea, you’ll still have to build up that area as still not round enough. i do that area differently compared to you using 1cm wide strips to initally build that area after removing the hull shaft housing. i’m also doing the bulges using the a modified bread & butter method.
http://www.shipmodels.info/mws_forum/viewtopic.php?f=59&t=165105
the model is actually 1/429 scale both by calculations & the original mold drawings.
Awesome; with that project, or series thereof, I hope you bought stock in either Revell or Evergreen, or both!!
bought about 16 kits with 3 still unopened with 13 hulls being worked on. still using a 4’x8’ sheet of .040" styrene bought over 10yrs ago that i had cut into 12"x12" squares. i hardly use putty on these builds because of the way i build them. i even build whole new rudder & skeg to get that stern area more rounded & hollow the same time.
You’ve got telent my friend. Plain and simple, you got it.
I’ve always stressed on the upper part of ARIZONA, where everybody seems to things wrong. Of course that is mostly due to the model being so wrong. As popular as it is, Revell seriously cut some corners on the original work-up. I know that the 1/350 kits have some of the same issues; I haven’t seen the 1/200 up close to check. My big pet peaves are the Frame 88 area structural fiasco, the engineering soft patches, and the aft 1.1" tubs and director pedastals.
thankyou.
already corrected the stern on my Arizona & did the torpedo bulge plus being slightly hollow like the real ones were. how are you going to do your bulges?
Got it started, adding a strip along the top before it tapers out full beam. Been working on my Lindberg minesweeper salvage project.
i think it is about 1.5mm per side you have to add. the strip gets added below the top of the bulge by about 6mm. have you figured out how to do the bulges’ bottoms?
There was actually a step at the bottom, below the turn of the bilge, so I thought i’d build the edge for the majority of it with a 1.5x2mm strip. the leading and trailing edges taper into the hull.
i glued the hull together first then put the bottom of the hull onto a belt sander to get the bottom as flat as possible then marked a parallel line 2.5cm from hull joint on either side. then marked out the bulges shape in pencil onto the hull connecting those 2 lines for the bulges. i glued 1mm x 5mm strips from the bottom front of the bulge to the back of the bulge right on the pencil lines. 4mm below the top of the bulges, i glued a 1mm thick by 10mm strip parallel to the bulge top from bulge front to bulge stern.
I am currently building the 1/426 Revell Arizona, and have been pondering adding torpedo blisters, but unsure how to do that. Came across your posts here and reading what you did, but having trouble visualizing it. The photos on the post are no longer available to view. I know this was a while back, but are you able to repost those pictures?
Not sure you’ll get a response, Edonbros. From his profile, it looks like he last posted in 2023. He might still be in hiatus because of the issues we had with the old version of the forum and hasn’t yet tried the new version.
As far as his photos go, the links might be broken, because Postimage has gone through a couple of occurrences of letting their domain lapse and having it held ransom (where someone else buys a domain that has lapsed, and offers it for sale to the original owner). The owners chose instead to create a new domain, but changing the URL rendered the links invalid. It was easy enough for use Postimage users to clean up, but he might not have been able to. Maybe he’s passed on?
Edonbros, at what stage of the hull are you at? fix the concave stern 1st before doing the bulges. this is what the stern should look like before adding the bulges.
also i was ddp59 before the current owners bought this site.
I haven’t done any major hill work, yet. I have the Arizona 3D book and the David Doyle book of Arizona at sea, and I noticed that the hull was very narrow for the Arizona. I’ve been toying around with the idea of how to fix it, but not sure how. This is my first attempt at trying to build a more accurate model than the one I did 40 years ago. I don’t have much experience with shipbuilding. Thank you for the pictures. That helps a lot.
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what time period are you going to do the model tho must be in the 1930’s to 1941 due to the bulges?
look at the bottom drawing that shows transverse sections http://www.researcheratlarge.com/Ships/BB39/BOGP/RG19_ALPHA_Arizona_BB39_08.jpg & the drawing that shows midship section & armor belt that you’ll need for the rudder area. http://www.researcheratlarge.com/Ships/BB39/BOGP/RG19_ALPHA_Arizona_BB39_09.jpg
are you going to correct the stern 1st?
The current model is going to be as she was on December 7. I would eventually like to show her as she appeared shortly after her 1931 modernization, and then try to build her in her original configuration. It’s going to be a while before I get to those. It’s been slow going so far. I only get a couple of hours each weekend to work on it. I’m on the road the rest of the week.
I plan to do as you’ve suggested and correct the stern first. This is a learning opportunity for me. I appreciate the help and guidance from someone who has already worked this stuff out. Thank you for the reference material.