Tipping is getting beyond ridiculous

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Hello Johnny K !

Hey, before you decide to Not Tip at all let me remind you of this. Wage and Hour laws seem to pass by those who serve us in Restaurants and Fast Food or Coffee places. They Allow the wages to NOT keep pace with inflation.

The result? Tips, automatic of course(Can’t Have those folks walking around with pockets full of money!) Wheras the result of production or other services don’t require tips. They are still living close to the vest after Inflation and Taxes. For instance. Here in New Braunfels Tx. A Small apartment that a single person would get after College or High School after leaving home, costs more Without utilities, Than I get in Social Security and My V.A. Disability. I couldn’t afford it soooo!

Fold in Car Payments, Insurance Food etc. They are far more burdened than I was back when I got out of the service. Plus the simple and arrogant treatment they see many times a day and you’ll see why those tips are appreciated. I don’t tip at Starbicks for instance.But if I buy a drink that leaves me a dollar or more of change I tell them to keep the change. Every little bit adds up. Maybe they are a single parent, for instance.

I guess it all goes back to when I was in the service industry(Restaurants). Low wages, No Insurance, Health Plan etc. This had to come out of my low wage pockets. even then it was expensive to live. Oh don’t get me wrong, I live from one check to the next because I made some hard and fast Financial decisions when younger that put me here financially, That’s on me. But, I still remember what it was like. Totally exhausted after a very busy holiday weekend, My station was eight five place tables.

Verbal abuse notwithstanding from a few, on my feet for ten hours or more. Finish the shift, Take my share of the tips(Bosses order, Share tips with bussers) Then buy Gas , and Pay Rent, flop down and fall asleep and have the wife get home from Her Hospital shift and wake me to go to bed. If every American city of note had a reliable transport system then A person starting out could ride public transit and save money for better things down the line. Ain’t happening !

P.S.- I don’t tip at Home Depot, Wal Mart, Lowes or Hobby Lobby, Mc Donalds or Burger King. Why? I was never taught to tip in Retail stores or Fast Food establishments. Only Restaurants( sit down, Fine dining types,) Full Service Gas Stations(Yeah,What is that?) Or maybe the tailor who made my suit fit the best at a Clothier, They used to be separate from the stores! Most Fast Food employees are told to, or used to be told , to discourage Tipping!

The Service industry is notorious for low wages! If you have a franchise operation you are always told to keep both th ewages and Bennies As low and nonexistant as possible. Then they also ask you Not to Tip. I do wonder about the tip line on a tab from a restaurant. What If I cannot afford to do this even if I would do so. Does that make me deserving of Lousy servoce?

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Here in the UK ‘Tipping’ is generally 10pc and no more! That’s in cafe’s and resturants anyway. Although a few 3D producers are asking for ‘subscriptions’ as the cost of the plastic and especially the electricty has rocketed!

I have held back so far but of course the prices for the 3D parts will soon rise.

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Yeah, I wish tipping wasn’t a thing. Sometimes it seems odd to tip someone a dollar for handing you a $2 cup of coffee.

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I don’t have a problem with tipping for a service provided, be it a waiter or the guy who helped me load my truck at Home Depot, but if all you’re doing is handing me the product I just bought, then I’m sorry but that’s going too far. At that rate, is the cashier at the grocery store worthy of a tip? At some point employers are going to have to start paying their people a living wage and stop counting on customers to subsidize them.

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I’m usually generous when it comes to leaving a gratuity. I refuse to leave a gratuity at (insert your favourite fast food restaurant here!), or (insert your favourite coffee shop here) or any place that has staff simply hands me my goods and saying ‘Have a nice day!’ after checkout. I ususally only tip at sit down restaurants and even then there’s no guarantee.

A number of years ago a bunch of us went out for a colleague’s retirement dinner. When bringing our meals to the table, the server spilled my meal all over me. All I got was a “Sorry.” with a feeble laugh as if everything was a joke. I asked to see the manager and none came to the table. There was no offer to dry clean my suit, a free meal, a free appetizer or drink or anything of the sorts. When the bill came, I paid for my meal in exact change. I gave her the bill and the money and said “Thank you.” The server scowled at me saying, “What! No tip?!” I explained the rationale behind my not giving her a tip and she stormed off in a huff. That was 40+ years ago and I never set foot in the place again after that.

It seems that the expectation of a tip, even after very shoddy service, isn’t a new thing after all.

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Expected staff gratuities on cruise ships.

The cruise lines suggest how much before you even book, but that’s another story.

Tipping is a way of life in America, so holiday brochures say.

10 to 15 percent is reasonable, but an expectancy of 25 percent (a quarter of your bill) of more is a bit much!

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Even in chain restaurants, a 20% tip is expected at a mediocre sit down restaurants like Texas Roadhouse. Really nice places will top that, a rustic Cracker Barrel will be like 18% and some no name diner or Waffle House would be 15%.

Most checks from these types of restaurants have the 15%, 18% and 20% already calculated for you.

I bet the barrista who just poured your cup of coffee at the trendy overpriced chain coffee shop might throw your drink in your face if you gave them 10%.

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I have no problem tipping when I get good service, but, I will not tip in a cafeteria when I order a cup of Cuban type espresso coffee ( about 1 or 2 ounces ). The other day I went to this cafeteria near my home and ordered a cup of the coffee, it was to be 60 cents, I gave the lady a dollar bill and waited for the change, this change never came, obviously, this coffee shop has lost my business.

That is the only way to tell this people that abuse the customer, vote with the wallet.

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I’m with you! Until they change the system and pay the staff a decent wage so they don’t have to depend on tips, I will tip well for good service and tip either poorly or not at all for poor service.

tjs