The Ultimate Vulcan Model. WIP ( Picture Heavy)

Hey fellows! Manny’s thread on group builds and solo got me thinking. While I am not going back to repost all my work I will try to show some of the bigger projects. [tup]

This is a special vehicle to me as I went from Driver to Gunner to Squad Leader on Vulcans during my 1st ten years in the Army. This will be as picky a build as you will ever see out of me because it’s one of those personal ones.

The M163 Vulcan is quite a mess of a track. While Conversion kits from Verlinden, MB models and others were 1st out. They were ok but not really close enough for me. Italeri and Academy are swell kits but not near complete and miss out on some small stuff by just using their M113 APC Chassis. The Academy kit probably is the best oob 113 at the moment but the Italeri and older Tamiya molds have their good points too. No matter what kit or after market stuff I bought, I couldn’t find one that was good enough.

Now Enter the Hobby Fan Kit. Way Way expensive but it showed a lower turrent. So I took a chance and hit gold.

Unbelievable resin details. Down to tiny quick release pins and holddowns about half the size of your finger in real world. These pieces are tiny and very correct. How they even got them out the molds I have no idea. No kidding these are miniture replicas part by part, cable by cable. Almost like the real thing has just been shrunk.

I’m not new to resin and aftermarket parts but these are beyond description. Over enginneered? Absolutely! It builds just like putting the real thing together. Just nuts.

I believe it will never get the fame it deserves simply because the directions are your typical 1 page diagram type. Not going to be a lot of help so If you don’t know this track I don’t think the most experienced modeler would try to tackle it. ( The guy who did the box art made it wrong even) So while I can say this is the most accurate kit I have ever seen for anything it will be ignored due to poor directions. You really need a TM just because there are that many tiny parts.

So I set about getting every thing 1/35 I could think of that could be used to make a suitable chassis for this over engineered masterpiece. The cables even have the connectors and lableing sleeves molded on.

I got every APC Kit and Vulcan kit from the original Tamiya’s to the new Academy. Counting them I have bought 6 full Kits not counting the Hobby Fan. Along with this All the P-E upgrades for both APC and Vulcans for all 1/35. Every conversion kit you name it. Not all at once but over time so I even have the OOP stuff.

Now the tracks on any APC model seem to be the weakest point IMO. They just stink. The new Tamiya offerings still are using the same rotten old tracks from 30 years ago. The Academy ones ain’t a whole lot better. They have additional IP ones included that are a little better but still stink! Seems like some hidden force prevented good 113 tracks. So I broke it down to two options. The Rubber band tracks new and available separately from AFV are pretty good. Definately the best bang for the buck.

But I had so much invested in this already I went with the Fruill metal ones which are the best representation of what these tracks should be but also the most pricey.

Ok got every thing I can possibly think of. Figure if I mess it it will be cuz of me. Or I’ll blame some poor random Marine.[(-D]

Where to start? Lets try step 1.

The small gangle of tangled parts make it neccessary to paint as you go. The resin is not the usual stuff. Very strong smelling and oiley even after washed in sdish soap and windex. It is also flexable and not brittle. Haven’t broke anything …yet.

Looking at step 1 [:O]

Really being as A- Nile about the colors as every thing else. Even the Large Ni-cads Powering the turret came in 3 colors black, dk grn, and earth brown. These were a relatively new technology then and liked to explode. The hold downs were pretty sturdy but some made pretty big bangs and sent stuff flying.

Perched on a testers paint bottle to show size.)

This was a lot of work. Every cable was routed and connected like the real thing after some tedious painting. But here are some shots of the lower turret.

You can see all sides of the parts are detailed. I have found no errors or omissions in any of them. What’s next? Step 2 [banghead]

The turret top. As you can see the metal barrels are shaped and hollowed as the real ones. If my eyes were better I probably could see the rifling. The barrel and muzzle clamps also install as the real deal. With an extension marking the #4 firing barrel. Unreal.

Together and primed up. Used that Mr Surfacer trick and a fine dot brush to give a cast appearence to the main cannon casing.

Put together what I could before the need to paint took over. The elevation motor is there, complete with data plate. Joins right to the cradle with gears like the real one again. All separate parts that have to be cleaned up and washed like all resin parts. Luckily the flash and mold attachment blocks ( fill blocks) are all in the best possible places and a sharp knife and patience is doing the trick with some curved files and sanders.

Even the cannon assembly attaches to the cradle as the real thing did. There is an hour glass shaped stainless steel pin that fits into the cannon base. Then it falls between brakets on the front which then have securing pins pushed through. The holes and pins are there to be pushed through but are the diameter of a fruit fly leg. Get a magnifing glass and some sharp pointed tweezers. Crazy details!

Letting it dry for now. the control panel is not missing a single switch. Or cable and the grips are spot on as well. The Army mainrtence manual has been my best friend jogging my memory for details. This kit is just that crazy. Like they took the real piece 3d scanned it and created it with some computer replication. Had to as the details are beyond what any sculpter could do.

Please feel free to comment. Thanks for putting up with me guys. [bow] More to come.

OOOH MYYYY GOD!!![bow] Your vulcan has me speachless. The detail is amazing. I would have lost half the parts to the floor monster by now. Will be watching this build.

Keep up the amazing work.

[#ditto]OH MY GOD is right!

WOW!

You’re a brave man, with that resin kit…I don’t think I would’ve had the guts to even attempt that!

Great WIP though! It’s starting to take shape, and it’s pretty amazing! Should be fun to watch!

Over on the Fleet Air Wing GB we’ve a bounty out on this fellow Sfmac.

He’s a curious individual, a drunen slo, a Pirat* most notably.

Appreciated certainly, loveable of course, believable ok.

It’s Friday, it’s Rum and the occifers be a blast, which humour his spoor.

LtCmr (jg) Bondoman

It is looking great. Good job so far. I have thought about getting the HF interior set too. It looks amazing. I might have to get on enow. I love putting interiors in all my buckets. Keep us posted.

now thats totally insane but a great job on all those resin parts. i would have thrown that against the wall a long time agao.

Every time I look at this post my jaw just drops to the floor. Outstanding work!!!

I’m going blind!!! This is worse than bralle scale and a great job. Absolutly top notch.

Love the penny to give you a sense of size…my eyes hurt and my hands shake just looking at it.[:O]

Rounds Complete!!

Glad you posted this up over here, very very nice work on the details on a very intricate and complex piece of gear. Keep us updated! [tup]

Wow I don’t know what to say you all are just blowing me away. I am truely humbled by y’all. Such encouragement is really appreciated and helping me more than you know. Thanks to all who have viewed and replied your the best! [bow]

The progress on this project is very slow going. It can take hours just finding and cleaning up the pieces. Then figuring out how they fit or how to even get them together is a daunting task in a lot of cases. Taking pics of these small pieces is pretty hard to as I am no photographer.

Here I put a few I have worked with on top of an old black case. The dark background helped my tired eyes to see them a little better.

I have to bloviate just one more time about the details then I’ll let it be. Left to right your looking at a 524 radio,(Charlie boxes and remotes) Every switch, vent, mount and even washers are there sides and back included.

Next is the Gyro gun sight, This is an example of how I said it gets put together as the real thing. Notice the two pins. They slide through holes and lock the sight in place. I mean is that detail or what?

Next is one of the support arms for the sight. Notice the holes cleaned out are smaller than the zero’s on the penny. Above it is a pin that fits through those holes. I learned real quick to leave a bit of flash on it for the tweezers to grab.

Last there is an antenna mount, Gun shield and electric drive motor.

Here is the gyro sight installed. The pins are so accurately shaped they lock as they do on the actual assembly. Makes my head hurt figuring out how they did that. Stays in place securely, no glue.

Here you see me slowly adding parts to the cannon. Even the ejection chute has clips that Used to cut my fingers. This really is stimulating so old memories I didn’t even know I had. Good thing or I’d be going nuts figuring it out. There are additional cables routed from the elevation motor to the tracking computers and power distibution box but they are hard to see as they are hair thin and black against gun metal. The pic above has one laying across the sight mounts. Bet you thought it was a hair.

Now if you can imagine holding all these parts in place while pushing tiny pins through tiny holes in multiple areas at one time with parts that can only be glued by thin super glue CA then you know you have to come up with inventive solutions . Or fail miserably.

Already said how I try to leave a bit of flash on as a handle. Here you can see the assembly stuck in some glow in the dark silly putty. Holds it in place at any needed angle and I can stick some sprue jigs in it to hold parts when I need my hands. You can get an idea from the pic on how many tiny holes have to be lined up at the proper angles to actually get it together.

My eyes were turning sideways and fingers cramping so I took a break, wanted to post some idea’s I have been using to handle these tiny resin critters.

I just use regular thin super glue from a dollar store. Get 4 to a pack and my nozzles always clog with bigger bottles. I still got them though all thicknesses, gap filling extc. Each as unique uses. The stretched sprue for jigs and holding up parts when stuck in the silly putty.

The clear parts cement has helped to. When I get a picky part that needs moved around before glued and is in a hard spot. A little of that does the trick long eenough to hold it in position for the CA. The parts are really two small for epoxy and there is a lot of time needed between gluing steps.

Paper plates with masking tape elmers glued sticky side up. Holds parts in place and saves them from the carpet monster. ( Sometimes) The ever present sanding sticks as well.

The most useful thing I have come up with thus far is a glue applicator for the CA. I have scavenged some of those little stirring straws for coffee and hollow platic shafted Q-tips. Both work excellent. I got the idea while at a hobby store looking at the fancy pens. The old feather quill dip in ink types. I simply took my sprue cutter and cut the tube at an angle and split the tip with a hobby knife. Put a drop of CA in the end and you can write applicate pretty precisely. Very important when you do not want to mar these tiny parts with excess Super Glue.

I don’t know if these idea’s are original or not but they work. Please share some of yours if you got any ideas on these resin parts. When I get to the Hull I’ll be working more with PE parts Egads I’m a glutton for punishment. Thanks for looking again! [tup]

simply stunningly amazing!

WOW

That looks absolutely fantastic…and painful. I have a few HF sets, and they are just incredible in their detail, but as you mentioned, they all seem to have really lousy instructions.

Taking multi media to the extreme…nice!

Makes my head hurt just thinking about something that small. Awesome job!

As everyone else has said, you are doing a fantastic job on an intense project.

For applying thin CA, sometimes I will use an applicator I made out of a sewing needle. What I did was cut the eye of the needle laterally with side-cutters leaving a tiny steel fork; this holds the tiniest drop of glue or accelerator. Then I just stuck the sharp end of the needle in a handle made out of a piece of square balsa stock. The nice thing is when the super glue dries on the needle, I just scrape it off with my knife and it all comes off in one clean chunk. I hope this might help you, I can imagine part of the challenge of this project is not covering those infinitesimal details with globs of glue.

Keep up the incredible work!

Aloha,

Justin

Well thanks again everyone. I all the support and post are much appreciated. I’ve seen a lot of y’alls work too so when I get replies like this, I feel I’m on the right track.

Justin that’s a cool idea. Pretty close to the same principle. The straws are working for me as I can make them sharper or blunter with just a snip. The glue drop is simply controlled by the size of the groove cut in thetip with a hobby knife and when it clogs simply snip cut and ready again. I’ll give it a try when I figure out where the wife hid the needles! [tup]

She seems to think I raid her make-up and scrap booking supplies for my hobby. (not me)[:-^]

Well it’s back to work tonight so here is where I am for now.

Got everything lined up and joined. Getting everything at the proper angle at once was a pain in the behind but I got em! You can see the resin flash I left on the pins. Can’t imagine doing it another way. It was like threading 4 needles at the same time from different directions. Really cool! [8D]

Cleanup and painting took a lot of time. Have more to do when the present is dry and set.

Dry fitting the real last nasty parts. Pieced them together too see how it all lined up. Not too shabby.

For the most part I think the tough part on the turret is done. Still have the feed chutes and inside the tub. Shouldn’t be too bad as I can see these parts at least. Whew!

Thanks again for looking and commenting. It really motivates me through the tough stuff and lets me say “That’s It!” as oppossed to just good enough,. Y’all are the best! [bow]

Man thats small but it looks great

Ditto to everyone else’s praise - and kudos for going the extra mile on a project that has special meaning - those are the most rewarding builds of all!

So you cut your teeth on these things, huh? I built Academy’s kit as an IDF version - I have always been fascinated by the M163 and M167.

Could I ask a technical question of you? During my research for my model, I always wondered how big the range only radar factored in to Vulcan operations? That is, did having that range info make a huge difference, or was it just as effective to dial in the best guess and go from there (non radar engagement)? What mode were targets typically engaged in? I’m assuming an anti air engagement here.

Anyway, good luck, keep up the brilliant work, and may you continue unmolested by the carpet monster!

Hmmm no real easy answer to that one. SHORAD short ranged air defense was just that. It was based on a gun missile mix in those days. Most of the technologies are from the Vietnam era and prior so a range only radar was not what it would be today.
All those boxes and wires are computers, power supplys and distribution boxes for both power and computations. The premise was to make an Anti Air weapon that would allow the gunner to simply aquire the target and pull the trigger.

There were two modes One radar and the other manual. In Radar mode the engagement would be to aquire the target by placing it with-in the large sight glass ( not the retical (cross hairs) Then uncaging the glowing reticle ( allowing it to float) then pushing the foot pedal which sent out the radar beam. Range about 4000 meters. ( that is close)

The returning signal would be instantly processed and the gun placed on target with all settings for atmosphere , temperature, range and speed automatically included. There were no readouts or anyway to dial any of those manually. Nothing to see but a glowing red circle in the sight glass.
The gun would jerk and slew itself from your intial tracking. A thumb switch pushed on the grips locked (caged) the sight on target and the trigger pulled firing a pre set burst rate of either 10, 30. 60 or a 100 rounds. ( It took 2 seconds to fire 100 explosive rounds)
That is how it was supposed to work. In reality the bore sighting of the radar and the frequencys were all set and tuned by hand. Easily disturbed by a bouncy ride. The radar was easily detectable by even a car radar detector so it was a looky here I am signal to the targets and made you a target. It was also old and complicated which made for maintenance nightmares. When it worked it would do as planned against an aircraft. It was not good against practice targets which were remote controlled styrofoam or a towed sleeve about 15 foot long and 1 foot in diameter towed by OV-10 Broncos. ( slow moving) Trying to practice in radar mode was not good as it could n,t dteect the targets but on more than one occassion locked on the Bronco. If the gunner had an itchy trigger then it would be bad. A few times the radar would lock on during a burst taking control away from the gunner and slinging unaimed shells at whatever.

Releasing the trigger during a burst was an instant jam an usually tore the feeder to shreds. Also bad.

I was a top gunner a few times. So this is how it was really done to be effective. You have a gun that fires at a 3000 rpm rate of fire. You leave the glowing reticle sight locked in a fixed position. Give the target about a 1 inch lead. Kentucky Windage and fire your burst. The guns effective range is only 2400 Meters for aerial targets ( way too close) and thats a lotta bullets to give you some good odds to get a hit. Aiming was no different than playing a computer combat flight sim where you lead at different angles. Delection shots extc. Same tech as a WWII fighter pilot.

To give the full picture I must mention the muzzle clamps as there are 2 different ones. The aerial clamp holds the barrels in an oval shape. This spreads the shot pattern like a shot gun. Makes the tracers look like a loopty loop. The ground clamp held them in a perfect circle. Tracers looked like a lazer beam. Most gunners that were worth their salt used the ground clamp not to show off but because of the damage inflicted. On a pass with the ground clamp I averaged about 14 to 18 rounds hit per 30 round burst. With the aerial on about 4 or 5 on the sensor filled sleeves towed by the bronco. On the small styrofoam remotes it would be lucky to get a hit. With a ground clamp I could cut them in half.

Best part of being top gun in Germany was getting to go train with the Germans to fire Gepards for a whole week! It was great!