The 1967 Scale Modeler Magazine Readers Survey Of Requested Model Kits

Below is the complete text with my [.ed] comments included of the 1967 Scale Modeler Magazine Reader’s Survey Of Requested Model Kits published in their February-March 1967 edition. This was the one survey results published by Scale Modeler I remember most not only for how detailed it was but how so many ways prophetic and sadly at times presumptious it was about what modelers wanted in the way of build subjects.

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The Readers Speak

Results Of Our Modeler’s Survey

The letters continue to pour in but out of the chaos that five thousand plus survey returns can produce, Scale Modeler has been able to draw several significant and far reaching conclusions.

First and foremost, is the informed caliber of today’s modeler [sic, ed.] As we have pointed out before, he [single gender OK for the day here, ed.] is neither twelve years old nor is he gullible. On the contrary, his knowledge of what he is modeling is usually extensive.

He is discriminating in his purchases and, if the kit warrants it, he is willing to spend quite a bit more to get something extra. Quality impresses him and he is quick to spot the hackneyed and the inferior. For this reason, the manufacturing of scale model kits has become a very competitive as well as hazardous business. Guess wrong or underestimate the modeler’s selectivity and a firm, even a big one, can go out of business fast.

Although our survey is only some six weeks along as this is written and we still are receiving letters at the rate of five hundred per week, a consensus has been building and it has taken the following form.

Fully half of those who replied to our questionnaire opted to write letters, going far beyond our brief listing. We appreciated this and we read them all. Preliminary among the comments after the perennial one that the survey was a good idea, was the thought expressed in many ways, that his was the first time the modeler had been asked about what he though and wanted and that it was hoped the manufactures would take heed.

We would like to reassure our readers that several companies, all of which well known, have already expressed interest in what they though and want to see the results of our survey as soon as it is completed. Two have already begun tooling up their plants for the production of models which, heretofore, they never realized were so wanted by the modeling public.

In addition to getting their thoughts of their chests, many readers also took the time to both praise and criticize some of the features in Scale Modeler [S/M, ed.]. A few issues back, we told you that S/M was to be your magazine, and you lost no time making your opinions known. We must add however, that the majority of your points were well taken and although you got us right in the ego, we will try to adopt as many of your ideas as possible.

Getting back to your kit selections . . . we found the following comments particularly noteworthy. In fact they were voiced so often that we feel there is a definite trend to the thing of our readers.

  1. Most modelers are tired of the same old standbys. Unless the kits are superdetailed [sic, ed.], much larger, or depict a different model previously unavailable, they would rather say bye bye to Mustangs and Zeros et. al.

  2. Every modeler who wrote to us generally admitted that he would be willing to pay a little more to get a little more. All would rather have one or two well done plane, car, ship or armor kits than a host of inaccurate, poorly researched models.

  3. Almost everyone evinced a keen interest in the neglected between-the-wars plastics which encompass the period 1920 to 1940 [arguably from 1919 as seen from today IMHO not counting the Spanish Civil War, ed.], and include military, civilian and racing planes.

  4. Our readers also wanted to see a section devoted to readers’ submissions, a feature we begun with our sixth issue [September 1966, ed.] and intend to sustain.

Before going into the selections chosen by you, one more market reaction was noted, possibly the most important one.

Every reader took the survey seriously. Many wrote us that they had tried repeatedly in the past to promote several kits that they wanted especially to see. Some have even gone so far as organize clubs [ed. emphasis] for the purpose. Unfortunately, their requests have been ignored or turned down with a polite reply. That is until now.

We at Scale Modeler take great pleasure in announcing that many of your requests will soon be in the works. The model industry is waking up. Competition from overseas has been a major spur [emphasis added; incredibly true, most especially after the Cold War ended in 1992 with the dissolution of the Soviet Union on December 26, 1991. ed.], but the resounding response from readers like yourselves has made the big difference.

For too many years scale modeling was thought to be in the same category with “hobby toys”, particularly by the manufacturers themselves. It is only now that many manufacturers have learned that scale modelers are serious people. With the emphasis away from pleasing the kids and focused instead on building an authentic replica, we can expect to see great strides made in accuracy, quality and the range of models available. If Scale Modeler has done anything to further this trend, it would be gratifying indeed.

And now the results of the survey in order of preference [emphasis, ed.]:

AIRCRAFT

Kingfisher by Monogram in ¼ inch will be reviewed in next issue of S/M [June 1967 ed.]

First Place . . . tie between Vought Sikorsky Kingfisher and Douglas TBD Devestator.

The former will be out within a few months in 1/32 scale, the model, an OS2U-3 type was made from a three-view drawing appearing in our sister publication Air Classics. Meanwhile, preliminary work is underway on a model of the later.

Second Place . . . Martin B-10.

A fine aircraft ignored by manufacturers, no plans are in the works for its production, but we have made contact with a forward looking firm which is giving the matter strong consideration. [i.e. Williams Brothers injected kit in 1/72 scale, ed.]

Third Place . . . Savoia Marchetti 79.

We knew this one was in production [i.e. Airfix 1/72 & Artiplast 1/50 injected kits, ed.] when we ran our survey and therefore omitted it. However, we got so many requests for it, we thought we would include it to prove that not all manufacturers are stuck on the same kits.

Fourth Place . . . Seversky P-35, another of the forgotten classics of the thirties, which many wanted super-detailed in 1/4” scale. [Williams Brothers 1/32 injected kit out first, wouldn’t be super-detailed but read on the Internet number of modelers have “improved” upon it over the decades, ed.]

Fifth Place . . . Curtis C-46 Commando, virtually submerged by the Goony bird’s publicity, this World War II workhorse was the biggest non-combat vote getter. [Williams Brothers again would be first getting their 1/72 injected kit out, ed.]

Sixth Place . . . Waco 10 . . . all respondents wanted a big, super-detailed model of this bird with moveable controls ala Monograms F3F and Gulfhawk. [Am assuming that’s been done over the ensuing 50 years, no? ed.]

Seventh Place . . . Bell Airacuda, also in quarter inch scale, although collectors of many models complained that 1/72 was the only to keep models from taking over the entire house. [Williams Brothers yet again got their 1/72 injected kit out first. retracted, more research needed. So very little did the Author appreciate much less know that even as ink was drying monster-sized 1/72 kits never mind larger scale kits would soon be on the market ala the Monogram B-52D, development work for which was well advanced then. ed.]

Eight Place . . . Tie among Mitsubishi Ki 21 Type 97 “Sally,” Mitsubishi G4M “Betty” and Kawanishi H3K1 flying boat “Emily.” The first two will eventually be brought out by L/S, the Japanese firm which did the Peggy that appeared in the issue Number 6 [i.e. the L/S 1/75 scale classic, ed.]. Since L/S and Nichimo are perhaps the two finest companies in Japan, these should be winners. [All were on the market before 1970 in 1/72 scale if memory serves right, ed.]

Ninth Place . . . Heinkel He 177 Grief . . . aircraft will be out next year by Faller, a German Maker, but may be hard to come by. [Find it criminally unbelievable Scale Modeler editors didn’t profess knowledge about Airfix coming out with their kit that very year – 1967. Did Airfix choose to keep this release Maximum Top Secret? Did Scale Modeler not want to act on rumors that it was about to be released, something else maybe? Primal screams of anger from this modeler still reverberating 50 years later! ed.]

Tenth Place. . . Curtis Shrike . . . again the call was for a super detailed model and readers called for extra parts to make model variations with, thus giving them a wider range of types, and were willing to pay more for same. [Have seen models of this bird over the years; super detailed ones with variations can’t say, those who know chime in. ed.]

Eleventh Place . . . Tie among Boeing F4B, P-12, P-26 all in quarter inch scale. It was felt the models now on the market of these ships were just too inadequate. Again super-detailing and size was the big feature, with lots of accessory parts for variation and prime attention paid to exacting detail. It was also found that in conjunction with these inter-war ship types Monogram’s treatment of the Grumman F3F should be extended to these classics also. [Was all this done over the ensuing 50 years, would love to know. ed.]

Twelfth Place . . . Lavochkin LA-5, included with these votes was the comment that most Russian WWII aircraft have been ignored by the manufacturers. [Airfix had the Yak 9D in 1963, Ilyushin Il-2 in 1964, Petlyakov Pe-2 in 1968, FROG the Tupolev SB-2 in 1969, Lavoshkin La-7 planned in 1971 but not released till 1975 which I think was around when Italeri came out with their La-5FN kit. I just don’t remember seeing any La-5 kits other than Italeri’s during the 1970s. ed.]

ARMOR

[Professing blind ignorance for fear of being bashed to pulp won’t comment on this genera. ed.]

First Place . . . General Stuart M3A1 light tank used by British in western desert and christened “Honey”.

Second Place . . . General Grant with 75 mm gun also mainstay in western desert, early phase.

Third Place . . . German half track armored personnel carrier . . . sd.Kfz 250/1.

Fourth Place . . . American M-10 Tank destroyer with 76 mm gun.

Fifth Place . . . British Mk.I “Mother,” variation which first appeared on the Somme in 1916.

Sixth Place . . . Renault FT tank WW I. [This one I’ll comment on; why pray tell wasn’t there an injected kit on the market of this famous armor subject back then? ed.]

Seventh Place . . . Christie T3 Tank, pioneer of the early thirties and forerunner of Russian designs.

Eight Place . . . Russian T/34 76 [sic. ed.]. Only model of this type tank is T/34 [sic. ed.] 85 mm gun model by Revell which is no longer in production.

Many requests for Japanese tanks were received but these are now available from Japan in any store that stocks Japanese kits [Highlands Hobbies in North Highlands, California next to McClellan A.F.B. where I’d frequented in the late 1960s did stock them for sure. ed.]

SHIPS

First Place . . . RMS Titanic . . . the famous liner won by ratio of nearly three to one over its nearest competitor. Rumor has it that the Cunard White Star Liner would take dim view of a model being produced, as it would revive unpleasant memories. This seems a bit much when you consider the movies and best selling books written about this historic steamship. At any rate, two firms are definitely interested in this project, as a group of modelers who form the Titanic Enthusiasts of America (that’s the name) have collected all the photos etc. needed to do a comprehensive job. Model would be made in the three ft. overall class. [Yep, model kits were out not too long afterwards. ed.]

Second Place . . . German WW I sub (U-9) Kapitainleutnant Otto Weddigen commanding. Early sub sank three British battlecruisers in first weeks of WWI. Readers asked for clear plastic hull-half to reveal detailed interior. One firm has already undertaken the project. [Will have to do Internet research meantime y’all welcome to enlighten me. ed.]

Third Place . . . Carrier Enterprise Big “E” a scratch built model of which appeared in previous issue of Modeler [November 1966 ed.]. Kit will appear early next year. [Who’s I ask? ed.]

AUTOMOBILES

Of the thousands of questionnaires received all but a handful checked Hitler’s Mercedes Touring Car [ed. emphasis], which was the biggest single vote getter in any category. Of all the models available the car manufacturers offer the widest range. Therefore, many classics ignored in other fields are already available in the car category. However, in addition to the Mercedes, numerous requests were made for Craig Breedlove’s “Spirit of America”. [ed. emphasis]

In closing, we wish to tank all those who took the time to write to us. Time and space do not allow us to reduce all your requests and it must be noted that particular aircraft such as the McDonnell Moonbat [ed. emphasis] and Japan’s Rita [ed. emphasis; i.e. Nakajima G8N], a four engine bomber will probably never appear except as scratch built projects [ed. emphasis. How disgustingly presumptuous, do wanna hear disbelieving cat calls from our forum Japanese modelers right now! ed.].

However, many fine models which are out were requested by readers who in all probably, did not know that they were available. We are speaking of the Douglas A-20 Havoc, the Me. 410 [ed. emphasis] (reviewed in last issue) [November 1966 ed.] and now the Arado 196. [ed. emphasis. How so very true then in 1967. Decades before the Public Internet y’all only had print publications & word of mouth to go by. ed.] Others will be coming out shortly and if your local hobby store does not carry them, write to any of the specialist outfits which advertise in S/M; chances are they’ll have what you want.

Hello!

That sounds kinda funny after 50 years, when we’re spoiled with internet and the unthinkable selection of kits to be had. Bet the people voting in 1967 didn’t even dream of the kits we have now, and there are still some that we’d like to see manufactured.

Your stating that cold war ended in 1992 got me wondering for a while. For me, living in Poland, the cold war ended in 1989 with the first free elections. Then Germany united in 1990, and Soviet Union was disbanded in the end of 1991, so what did you have in mind writing 1992?

The above article is also, IMO, an important milestone in the long standing “this is not a toy” discussion.

Thanks for sharing and have a nice day

Paweł

The Cold War wasn’t an official war; some historians I’ve read on the Internet argue the timeline. Wikipedia says 1947-1991 few others argue it began at the February 1945 Yalta Conference while WWII was still on. I went by “1992” as the first calendar year following the Dissolution of the Soviet Union on December 26, 1991 that it ended but have retracted that to say when the Soviet Union was dissolved.

The U.S. Air Force’s Strategic Air Command wasn’t dissolved till May 31, 1992 so arguably when it was along with the U.S. Navy’s Ballistic Missile Submarine Fleet stood down the Cold War ended insofar as strategic offensive policy against the “Soviet Union”.

For the historical record, the U.S. Government officially ended WWII on December 31, 1946, too bad the Cold War couldn’t had been similarly officially declared ended.

This fifty-year-old survey makes you think. Back then the only more or less 1/35th scale armor kits were made by Monogram and seem primitive today. Renewal still did 1/32 scale kits also tooled during the fifties. From time to time Revell would re-release some of their 1/40th scale armor kits from the past. The only World War Two British, German or Soviet subjects were only available in 1/48th scale from Aurora and 1/72 or 1/76th scale from Airfix. The only modern Soviet subjects were former ITC kits repackaged by Ringo.

While Monogram added a high level, for the time, in their 1/48th aircraft kits cockpit detail was unheard of beyond a seated pilot, decal control panel and, in some cases, a control column. Revell would release some highly detailed 1/32nd scale World War Two fighters but that was late in 1967.

While Johan, AMT, MPC, and Monogram released some very good automotive subjects many were not as good as what is available today.

Well that didn’t work out.

Italeri made the SM 79 and that’s about it.

Why in heck would a Curtiss Shrike make the list.

Oh and Titanic, which is almost a fansite Choice.

Plumb forgot to mention, I too filled out & mailed in the survey, memory serves right it was on a good-sized postcard centerfold in a 1966 edition, had to pay 4-cents to mail it back. For 100% sure I’d requested the Heinkel 177 probably the Savoia-Marchetti 79 as well, likely scribbled them on with a ball point, lotta spelling errors as well.

When I’d read this passage: "Of the thousands of questionnaires received all but a handful checked Hitler’s Mercedes Touring Car…" a fleeting, garbled memory just flashed that the survey might had number of “suggested subjects” to check off, i.e. juicing readers to mark. Where they Scale Modeler Magazine staff favorites? Padding the survey for the manufacturers? Poll taking methodologies always are questionable.

Late 1968 I’d typed a letter to Revell in Venice, California of kit requests; recently completed a summer high school course in typing probably was my first typed mailed letter. I’d typed it on blue paper with a dark blue border, one of mom’s fancy stationery pieces, with dad’s 1947 Royal typewriter, he’d used whist going to the University of Southern California on the G.I. Bill my twin sister’s hubby has it now.

I for sure asked Revell to produce the Reggiane 2000, spelled it wrong even though I had the publication about this bird in my Profile Publications collection at the time. To my delight Revell wrote me back with a “Thank you for your suggestions…” reply; in the re: below the letter header they’d verbatim my Reggiane spelling error, polite they were not admonishing me! Y’all don’t forget such details; can “see” both letters right now just wish I can make out the text!

Absolutely did build Renwal’s M48A2 Patton II summer 1963:

brought it along with somebody’s Panther model to Sacramento September 2nd that year, very study kit even badly as I’d constructed it. Immediately after we’d moved into then our second family home I began my “Bronze Novice” modeling phase lasting till 1965 when I began hand painting them, one exception was Hawk’s Weird-O “Daddy” kit c. January-February 1964:

indeed did paint it but very badly, wouldn’t try painting models again for well over a year.

Dont forget catalogs and ad flyers tucked into some kits put out by the model companies themselves. As well as the box sides that often showed the box art and titles of other available kits.

Yep, these also. For over a decade I had several 1964-66 Airfix Of America ads clipped from newspaper & flyers advertising their releases, mostly box top art, gave all of them away two years ago. I still have a 1963-64 color print of an Air Lines industrial customer sales flyer of the kind they’d pass to buyers to go along with a complete set of their 1964-66 kit releases I’d kept, intend to keep these rest of my life or till am forced into a care home.

Thanks RiK for the post and to all that have contributed, don’t have anything really to add myself but this has been fascinating reading.

Williams Bros did an Airacuda?

They have a pretty ecclectic selection of kits, but I’ve never seen an Airacuda from them.

I do wish Monogram had continued with their line of yellow wings biplanes. The P6, F4B-4 and F11C-2 are great little kits.

Matchbox and Revell took care of the P-12 and P-26, but the choices for a Grumman F3F have been limited. Special Hobby finally brought us the F3F-2 and F3F-3, but the F3F-1 is still only available as a vacform kit.

Have retracted my Williams Bros Airacuda claim, will do more research to find out who got it out first. Rareplane had a vacuform for sure:

but my memory is so strong seeing Williams Bros kits for sale of it that its become another “Mistery Of Life” thing to investigate, apologies meantime for not having done my homework here [:$]

Fascinating thread RiK! Excellent read!! :smiley:

Speaking of mysteries, I still clearly remember building a 1/48 Monogram F6F-3 Hellcat “Blue Angels” (sometime around 1986) of which I can find no trace of, anywhere. It’s like it never existed.

But I remember it.

Something like this by ARII maybe:

Note that the ARII logo somewhat looks like Monogram’s in passing:

Note Confederate Air Force, this long before PC BleachBit-ting (double entendre here).

I remember it being specific for the Blue Angels because it had no gun ports, no rockets, and no centerline tank.

I remember making holes for the guns myself. (and guessed their locations poorly, I might add)

But it was almost exactly like the above Monogram kit otherwise. Yeah, ponder that a moment. I remember it being molded in Blue Angel Blue plastic even, with minimalistic yellow decals.

I remember it quite clearly.

Something similar to this Lindberg kit maybe:

That has the same markings! But Fred Meyers only sold Monogram or Revell kits in my area. I definitely remember the Monogram logo on the box. Wait… Revell??

This possibility maybe:

1/144 Scale though, still looking…

There were a couple other domestic short run kit makers back then, Beechnut, Meikraft, plus the various vacform makers so I can easily see mixing them up over decades. It just doesn’t seem like the kind of thing Williams would have done, most of their kits being historically significant but overlooked production aircraft (Curtis Sparrowhawk possibly stretching the term production). Maybe Glencoe? They seem to have produced more kits of prototype and paper projects.

Glencoe kits are usually re pops of somebody else’s old molds. ITC, Aurora, etc…

Monogram did the F3F in 1/32 a few years after the survey. Hasegawa did the 1/32 P-26, as well as the P-12 and F4B in the early 70’s. Hobbycraft did a 1/48 P-26 in the 90’s.