I just read another new thread and got spooked.
I just went over to Tamiya acrylic paints. I am going to wash with oils but I did not plan on sealing with Future before hand. I would do that after the wash. I have always worked with enamels so this was fine
Will “unprotected” or “sealed” Tamiya acrylics be effected by a wash with thinned oils (paint thinner)?
Jason
I use Tamiya Acrylics exclusively. Airplanes I generally seal with Future (it’s just clear acrylic), tanks I sometimes use Future depending on the look I want.
I use Turpenoid (a less toxic substitute for Turpentine) to mix my oil paints with and have never had any trouble using that over the Acrylics. [2c]
Here is a photo of an oil wash I did a couple nights ago… Tamiya Acrylic paint, turpenoid and oil paint for the wash.
Same here.
However when I using Turpenoid +oil colour on Tamiya’s spray can (I believe it’s Lacquer based?) I did get some area feel off - and that was on top of primer but no future [well its substitute as we don’t get future over here…]
DJ898,
Future in Australia is sold under the name “Pledge one Go” Exactly the same stuff ? (I think ), made by the good people at SC Johnson. Pick up a 500ml bottle at most supermarkets.
yes except not many supermarkets are carrying it.
I only saw it at the Coles Rhodes…
I’ve seen it at lots of Coles, Woolworths and Food for Less (aka woolworths Lite). They might not have it in stock from time to time, but its a regular stock line.
Paul a while ago I had a mate in the States (from this forum [:D]) send me over a bottle of Future and it’s not the same stuff as One Go. They are similar and do a similar job but One Go is an Ammonia based product where Future isn’t. Unfortunately for us Future is the better product by long way. Why on earth they don’t sell Future here is beyond me?
Jason to answer your original question yes you can do an oil wash directly over Tamiya paint however you need to bear in mind that the wash will bleed into the Tamiya acrylic and you won’t be able to remove it. However this can be very desirable as Scott’s Panther shows, it just depends on the look you are after.
Cheers
Thanks everyone. I’m feeling a little better now.
Darson - If I was to wipe it quickly, would it come off then, or does that not matter? If I use a future overcoat, will it still bleed into the acrylic?
I normally save the future until all the drybrushing is done, before decaling. I like to dry brush with a flat paint on a flat surface as I find it is easiest to judge the outcome that way.Flat on gloss is hard to judge. When I’m all done, I seal everything with clear coat (this time it will be acrylic Testors).
I’m so used to enamels and this is my first go at acrylics (only way I could convice the wife to let me move the airbrush from the garage into the house).
Jason
The key is really what do you want your wash to accomplish.
If you’re trying to add depth to the model AND grub it up at the same time (like in with my Panther) then you’d just do your wash over the Tamiya Acrylic paint.
If your goal is simply to add some depth and accentuate the detail, then you’ll want to do your wash over a coat of Future. That way the oil pigments in the wash will be drawn to just the details (for the most part) due to the surface tension of the liquid (turpenoid or turpentine).
It’s also easier to wipe off excess on a gloss coat since the surface is slick i.e. glossy. Flat finishes by their very nature are “rough” so the pigments will also be deposited into the texture of the flat.
Experiment with some scrap of you want to see how the wash works differently over the two surfaces. [:)]
the answer to your question…NO!
well, I washed it. Looks great too!
I had no problem removing the excess…just like normal.
Thanks everyone for the input.