Tamiya modified Command Panzer III, 3rd SS Division-Kharkov *PICS*

…Tamiya’s Mk III modified to be a Command Mk III during Feb of '43 during recapture of Kharkov…just finished the dio base and thought the tank looked right on it…MK tracks, tactical numbers are hand-painted and divisional insignia are Archer drys…

Wow that is just beautiful. Superb work.

I’d say this is my favorite so far. Nice dio and the whitewash looks really cool. As much As I like the yellow markings, they just seem to clean, maybe a little dust or pastels over them. Keep em coming.

I think it looks great too… Definately a great job at painting. Though you’ve faded the whitewash, the yellow markings look way too clean! I think some pastels to fade them into the paint a bit is in order here!

…thanks for the comments…actually, the markings were purposely freshly-painted; my refs show that they were applied late in the battle after the whitewash was very scrubby looking…tthis tank happens to be very well-documented, although some researchers think the letters/numbers were white instead of yellow…

A very nice job at first glance, Manstein, but upon closer inspection…:

–there’s no wear shown on the guide horns, nor any on the track’s faces–which are climbing over bricks and rubble, etc…a bit of silver here is needed.

–ths snow camo on the spare tracks on the front doesn’t look realistic-too “dabbed on with brush” looking…

–you need to get an Optivisor for your figure painting. While your lines may look straight in 1:1 scale, under magnification you can see that it’s really sloppy, and the skin tones shading could also be improved. You should also investigate learning to shade the uniform, rather than simply drybrushing greys over flat black.

–look at the headphones; you missed painting the entire undersides. Other borders are also not very crisply delineated…

–have the bricks in the foreground just in front of the panzer been carelessly overlooked and left in the same ground color?

Other than these, it’s a nice finish, and a passable presentation.

…I still have a lot to learn doog; thanks for pointing out all of my mistakes…

A very nice job at first glance, Manstein, but upon closer inspection…:

–there’s no wear shown on the guide horns, nor any on the track’s faces–which are climbing over bricks and rubble, etc…a bit of silver here is needed.

Agree

–ths snow camo on the spare tracks on the front doesn’t look realistic-too “dabbed on with brush” looking…

That is exactly the effect I was looking for. I used Osprey’s Modeling guide for the Mk III for my inspiration and tried to use most of the whitewash techniques in the book on one vehicle to give it the look that it was touched up at various stages…eg: the front plate is supposed to look like brush strokes, as well as the spare track…

–you need to get an Optivisor for your figure painting. While your lines may look straight in 1:1 scale, under magnification you can see that it’s really sloppy, and the skin tones shading could also be improved. You should also investigate learning to shade the uniform, rather than simply drybrushing greys over flat black.

Drybrushing over flat black (tankers) in 35th scale was taught to me by Lewis Pruneau who learned it from Frances Verlinden, so that’s the technique I prefer in 35th scale…

–look at the headphones; you missed painting the entire undersides. Other borders are also not very crisply delineated…

Agree

–have the bricks in the foreground just in front of the panzer been carelessly overlooked and left in the same ground color?

Actually, the bricks are a different color: Miss. Mud; the ground itself is Chocolate Brown…lighting may be deceiving…

…thanks again for the feedback !

[tup] Great work! I like this one best! [tup]

/Tony aka bultenibo

…thanks, I’ve always liked the Mk III’s----and I think the yellow tactical numbers really set off the whitewash…

Another fine build Eric Von! The whitewash is particularly well done and I do like how you’ve protrayed the contrast of the whitewash techniques used in the field.[tup] You’ve definitely got skills and are well versed in the techniques used in armor building. Some may say your builds are too clean, but I would love to be able to build my armor as nice as yours! Keep up the great work! [:D]

thanks for the kind words

Nicely done Manstein. I’m starting to get PzKpfw III fever! [8D]

…I am a big Panzer III fan as well, particularly the J, K and L models…Tamiya makes a great kit that you can convert to different marks, as I did with this one…if you will note this thing has THREE antennaes !!! Just forgot to raise the other one in the trough before I took the pic…looking forward to the DML J model…

Looks like a cracker Manny. I must admit though, the wheels look totally diferently weathered to the topside. The top is…Just too clean and neat. Like the figure, Very nice.

…Guy

…weathering, or the lack of it, is one of those long-debated topics and no one is really right about it…

Tony Greenland, considered by many to be the best Armor Modeler in the world, has a good quote: “I model armor, not the terrain.” …or something like that…he was constantly criticized for under-weathering his stuff; now he makes a living writing armor books and making masters for kits…

I used actual pics to model the tank and have seen many times where the suspension was a total mess but very little was on the upper hull (especially with tanks moving slowly through mud)…I have said it and will say it again, even though I will be criticized for it, some folks over-weather their stuff to hide flaws in construction…most tanks didn’t last a year in combat and I have seen tanks weathered to impossible extremes given the time they were actually in combat…

…when it comes right down to it, it is really a personal taste issue…

I agree with what you’re saying to a point MR. What Greenland was saying really would apply to say a stand alone model on a base. What you have here is clearly a diorama, and well a tank that isn’t weathered to be made to fit into the diorama smoothly will never win a competition. You have here a scene with a tank rolling into a town. Cool, however, you have no dust from rubble in the tracks, you only have a small dabbing of mud on the lower hull and a touch on the drive sprocket. Now this looks nice if you weren’t using it in the setting you have. Unfortunately, it doesn’t fit, and a little more care to looking at how you are presenting a scene and story overall will really be more convincing. Unfortunately, what you have here is a tank that is sitting on the story instead of being PART of the story. I think you’re spending way too much time defending your work than looking at the true potential this dio offers. I also think that it is very unrealistic to have your model weathered the way you do, for a dio! Kinda sad really, because this dio has much potential!

…WOW…I didn’t advertise it as a dio…actually this tank was plopped down on that base 1 full minute prior to the pic being taken…so it isn’t actually a finished dio…I hadn’t even decided what I would do with that base until then…

…if I leave it on I will blend the two together…during winter, dust is usually at a minimum (wet ground)…

…and don’t take my replies as being defensive, just explaining the reasons why things are the way they are, that’s all…

I understand what your saying Manny but, Ive said this elsewhere, We had a dozer on a worksite that i was on. It was brand spanking off the trailer. By the afternoon there was dirt and dust all over the thing. It was summer and dry. If you ran your finger across the side of it, it left a mark and dust on your finger.

The dozer had probably driven about a mile all day (Small site).

I know what your saying that late model panzers didnt last long, but ill bet they were driving for more than a mile and churned up a lot more muck.

My [2c] worth, ignore it at your pleasure.

…Guy

Ok it’s not currently a dio, but I do think that there is some food for thought here. I’m not attacking you personally so don’t take it as that. So it’s not a dio, but I did misunderstand the photos I guess. My bad