substitute for Vallejo primer

Hello BlackSheep, have you tried decanting this primer for use with airbrushing?. Iam new to modeling and trying to find my way through all the info iam finding. I have vallejo primer but have not tried it yet, i have used Rustoleum in the can but find it hard to control coverage. Thanks rory

Rex, thank you for your comprehensive reply, mate.

It sounds as if we have the same goal, to find an indoor friendly acrylic primer to stick with, even if it is not totally comparable with a solvent-based primer, as Chris pointed out.

I will definitely be ordering some Stynlrez, even if I can’t pronounce it.

Though I can’t answer you question about Vallejo, I can report that I sprayed the inside of some Stuka wheel pants with it last week. I got around to them last night, and was rather surprised at how hard it had set up. Even did a scratch/scrape test, not awful.

I’m lucky, I don’t think my boss would complain if I sprayed straight lacquer thinner all afternoon long. But not having a booth or a vent, spraying this stuff indoors just can’t be good.

Thanks again, gents.

sty nul rez is how I say it

now, as with all things, there is no guarantee that I am doing it right, LOL

(according to my neighbors I “don’t sound lack y’all come from 'round heyah”,and they are right, I am a Wisconsinite living in the Sunny South,so, I no longer sound like I belong in either place)

Rex

Guys;

Here is Ken from Badger:

www.youtube.com/watch

John

According to the video John linked to, you got it right, Rex. [:D[

Cool video, John. Thanks. Whoever Jay is he sounds a little like Howard Stern.

Styrene, vinyl, and resin. Hmmm. Not I’m even more intrigued. [8-|]

In this winter I’m using Stynlrez, which I like much more than AK & Vallejo primers. It’s just too cold to leave the windows open. I’ll use Tamiya when it gets warm.

Sorry for resurecting an old thread; however, I myself had been looking for some new primers, as I am trying to limit spraying the strong smelling paints and primers. I do have a small paint booth, but I still tend to get some smell if I paint in my workspace. Typically, especially if I am using a rattlecan, I will spray in the garage or outside, depending on the weather.

I switched to using the Ammo of Mig primers and have just ordered my first batch of Stynylrez to give it a shot. I have to say, I really like Ammo Primer, I suppose its probably close to AK’s primer. I used to use Krylon primer in a rattlecan, but since you can find their regular primer anymore, I’ve had to find an alternative.

I noticed on several posts people mentioning to order from webairbrush, I checked their site and it was rather expensive. I was able to find it at hobbyworld.com for a lot cheaper. I was going to order from Amazon; however they said it would take between 3 and 7 months to get here. hobbylinc had it as well, but they were out until mid-March. I cant believe how hard this stuff is to find here in the States, even though its a made in the USA product.

Tamiya fine …grey/white for me . I don’t care for the smell …but I have a wicked spraybooth so no matter. .it’s foam safe as I do a lot of r.c aircraft repainting for other people. .I decant a large amount. .after degassing it lasts in a jar for a long time. .best of all …no thinning . It’s sands good too .

5-high

The name of the product is Stynylrez. Pronounced sty nil rez. It comes from Styrene, Vinyl, and Resin - which were the three substrates we most focused on in development of the product. Although these substrates are all relatively common to the craft of finescale modeling, they are also amongst the most difficult on which to create a good solid media adhesion and bond. So we knew if we could develop a primer product that would stick to these three substrates, and withstand the finishing process requirements of finescale modelers, it would also adhere durably to other substrates, including other plastics, various metals, and woods. All indications are that we have succeeded in our objective to produce a surface priming product that would provide the “Perfect Prime Everytime”.

If you go to Amazon look for USA Airbrush Supply. They are a third party seller that has an ample invnetory of Stynylrez - including the six new colors.

oh by the way, we just introduced 6 new tones of Stynlyrez - so there are now twelve different Stynylrez surface primer tones. Black Gray White Olive Green RedBrown Neutral Yellow Light Flesh Ebony Flesh Oceanic Blue Dull Pink Black Gloss Metal So you can prime and basecoat in any of these tones. If you want more info, please email me.

Since this thread got bumped (thanks for the additional info, Ken…now I finally know what the product name means)…

…I asked a lot of questions and never updated that Stynylrez has been my primer of choice since a buddy sent me some to get me off my lazy duff last year.

Love the stuff. Pure pleasure to use, IMO.

I’ve tried many primers over the past few years, several I liked but had issues for my use. Some required decanting for A/B, some had adhesion problems, several smelled terribly, some did not sand or fill well.

I have settled on Stynylrez, it does it all well for me. Never had a lifting problem when removing masks or sanding, levels perfectly, dries super fast and with a durable surface’ It’s workable within a few hours of spray, but as a matter of habit I wait overnight.

One caution to new users, the solids do settle rather thickly at the bottom of container. Nothing new about that, it’s a fact existing since paints were placed in jars. But stirring with a stick is really the only way to get a thorough blend of all the ingredients, shaking only results in a watery mixture, a portion the desirable and workable qualities of the primer remain at the bottom. After stirring I then use the Badger mixer to complete the process of blending, or shaking does it too.

Hearty recommendation for Stynylrez from me. Thanks to Ken @ Badger for producing a great paint product, and some mighty nice airbrushes.

Patrick